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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:55 am 
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agree with walls, i want sos to be our next coach.

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Look, if you talk to the suits around the club youd fiund its not far fetched and that SOS is "away from the club , learning".
To me thats a nightmare. SOS has a vey aloof personality.. isnt a reat communicater the TV doesnt lie.. and i reckon his special comments is useless. He states the bleeding obvious...

That comment contradicts everything Walls said about SOS's personality and his communication skills on the tour of Ireland. :roll:
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GET VOSS!!! NOW!!!!.. one year as an assistant and in...

SOS can come in as an assistant to VOSS if he wants it.

We need someone that the whole footy world will take notice of.

Fullback of the century and favourite son isn't good enough for you or the media? :P

I think SOS's return home would be greeted with great fanfare by the media and bring plenty of attention to the club.


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GET VOSS!!! NOW!!!!.. one year as an assistant and in...

SOS can come in as an assistant to VOSS if he wants it.

We need someone that the whole footy world will take notice of.


...and then we could get SOS & VOSS to make sweet, sweet love and their child (picked up father and son) would be known as SOSOS VOSS!!!

(Serge would obviously become GFOSOSOS VOSS :-D )


As for whether Silvagni or Voss or any other immediate past or present player can coach? Who knows? When the time comes for a new coach (and I don't believe that's happened quite yet) I'd like to see an extensive search of all viable candidates and a thorough vetting of their capabilities and heavy scrutiny of their philosophies and presentations. I'd like to see a selection committee made up of some board members, past players and outsiders involved in coaching at the highest level.

All this annointing of people without any sense of anything other than their standing as a player is toss be it SOS, VOSS or ROSS (Lyon)... :lol:

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I wouldn't mind sos.

But I would LOVE Peter Dean. :wink:

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Look, if you talk to the suits around the club youd fiund its not far fetched and that SOS is "away from the club , learning".
To me thats a nightmare. SOS has a vey aloof personality.. isnt a reat communicater the TV doesnt lie.. and i reckon his special comments is useless. He states the bleeding obvious...

That comment contradicts everything Walls said about SOS's personality and his communication skills on the tour of Ireland. :roll:
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GET VOSS!!! NOW!!!!.. one year as an assistant and in...

SOS can come in as an assistant to VOSS if he wants it.

We need someone that the whole footy world will take notice of.

Fullback of the century and favourite son isn't good enough for you or the media? :P

I think SOS's return home would be greeted with great fanfare by the media and bring plenty of attention to the club.

But when you talk about Walls... he was thrown out of two clubs cos he was aloof...

so he doesnt understand communication.

Just as good a player as SOS.. smarter tacticican but little people skills.

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now GWS do not take gloss off the Voss SOS goss or you'll leave me at a Loss who should be Boss - Voss SOS or even Ross - me I like that bloke who played for Essendon*, remember him, Moss - or the bloke from Bonanaza - no I meant Little Joe. 8)

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He's got to be an assistant somewhere first before we take an idea like this seriously. I'm surprised we haven't secured him as a specialist coach or something down at the club or was he just as pissed with Collo as he was with Jack?

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I am not yet sure that SOS has the all round capabilities for a senior coach. I am very glad to see him getting out there and getting experience at the Bulldogs. I do expect to get him back to us at some stage in the future. However, that could be at Boardroom level, as our present board appears to be losing player representation. Maybe SOS will get the skills needed for the coaching caper. I hope so. But one thing is for certain, He is a Carlton man and he will come back to the fold. The question is, in what capacity?

I would go with Voss as an assistant coach as soon as he is available. As for as leadership and possible coaching skills go, he appears to have a lot of this. He also has experience playing under good coaching panels, successful teams and knows what it is like to come up from the cellar.

Braddles seems to have some coaching capabilities. It would surprise me to see him back some day, but not until there have been some more changes around the club.
I don't think he will be back until most of the players in the Elliott Demise are gone. I don't know of there is any bad blood, and it might just be Braddles getting erxperience elsewhere, but when Collo and Pagan are gone, the playing list is totally differenent and a new board is in place then Braddles will return.


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Worsfold was always the guy I wanted..... although we had little chance of keeping him once the WCE job opened up.

Braddles wouldnt make a coach...why?.... well he was a great but selfish player. Great Team players make great coaches.....not great players per se.

SOS...would be a great assisstant down the line but not a head coach. The way coaching is headed its becoming sports-science based and intellectual. Not saying SOS isnt smart but I think there are better options.
Voss definately being one because all his onfield leadership and nouse would directly translate to coach. Enormously respected and intelligent.

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Synbad wrote:
But when you talk about Walls... he was thrown out of two clubs cos he was aloof...

so he doesnt understand communication.

Just as good a player as SOS.. smarter tacticican but little people skills.

SOS must have terrible communication skills if the quote I have selected is correct. :roll: I think he would make a good choice if he shows he has the coaching nous and some of the great coaches have been defenders as a rule, Parkin, Pagan, Sheedy, Malthouse, etc. :wink:

And this trend is continuing with defenders such as Roos, Worsfold, Thompson, Laidley having senior positions and Mark Harvey to get the head job sooner or later.

Not forgetting Grant Thomas! :cool:

And it's a pity no one was there to help Jordan Russell with his goalkicking. :wink:

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We were both match committee members of the Australian team. The first thing that struck me was the amount of time the full-back of the century was prepared to give individuals.

He would spend hour after unglamorous hour assisting those who needed some fine-tuning of their game. These were All-Australian players, the cream of the crop, but they continually sought Silvagni out. They liked his down-to-earth, genuine approach. There was no ego or showman about him.

During match committee discussions, his voice was the least heard. But when he spoke, all listened as you knew his opinions were well thought out.


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one from left field - andy mckay could be a good coach i think.


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Paul Hudson 8)

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Paul Hudson yes .I think AFL clubs should keep a lookout for ex AFL players who enhance their coaching stakes in the bush.Except if your name is Grant Thomas.


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During match committee discussions, his voice was the least heard. But when he spoke, all listened as you knew his opinions were well thought out.


:lol: Classic. It's like the complete opposite of everyone around here.


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JuzzCarlton wrote:
Synbad wrote:
But when you talk about Walls... he was thrown out of two clubs cos he was aloof...

so he doesnt understand communication.

Just as good a player as SOS.. smarter tacticican but little people skills.

SOS must have terrible communication skills if the quote I have selected is correct. :roll: I think he would make a good choice if he shows he has the coaching nous and some of the great coaches have been defenders as a rule, Parkin, Pagan, Sheedy, Malthouse, etc. :wink:

And this trend is continuing with defenders such as Roos, Worsfold, Thompson, Laidley having senior positions and Mark Harvey to get the head job sooner or later.

Not forgetting Grant Thomas! :cool:

And it's a pity no one was there to help Jordan Russell with his goalkicking. :wink:

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We were both match committee members of the Australian team. The first thing that struck me was the amount of time the full-back of the century was prepared to give individuals.

He would spend hour after unglamorous hour assisting those who needed some fine-tuning of their game. These were All-Australian players, the cream of the crop, but they continually sought Silvagni out. They liked his down-to-earth, genuine approach. There was no ego or showman about him.

During match committee discussions, his voice was the least heard. But when he spoke, all listened as you knew his opinions were well thought out.
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You sound like you know what youre talking about......

But you dont......

Like i said Walls had huge deficiencies...

And what he states makes SOS a good assistant...

If his opinions are that well thought out and everyone feels compelled to listen... how come he sounds silly on the telly???

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Tv as a medium is far far different from in person synners - even you should know that. Look at Timmy lad - sounded great on TV yet did not a coach make - perhaps there is an inverse media rule here - the worse you sound on telly the better the coach you'll make.

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Tv as a medium is far far different from in person synners - even you should know that. Look at Timmy lad - sounded great on TV yet did not a coach make - perhaps there is an inverse media rule here - the worse you sound on telly the better the coach you'll make.


He aint a main coach dannyboy...

There are some around the club that would like him to be but theyre kidding themselves.

There are some around the club that think Sticks would be a great president someday too....

But thats how a club starts to think when it has no answers .., it begins to kid itself...

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Synbad wrote:
You sound like you know what youre talking about......

But you dont......

Like i said Walls had huge deficiencies...

And what he states makes SOS a good assistant...

If his opinions are that well thought out and everyone feels compelled to listen... how come he sounds silly on the telly???

SOS has less deficiencies than another Carlton man.

Maybe you can highlight the reasons why Voss would be so much better as a head coach. Walls has had a bit to do with both players yet he named SOS as the potential head coach. Incredibly naive to appoint a head coach after he has been an assistant coach for only one year.


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Voss is a 3 time premiership captain.
Ive heard him talk about what it takes to be a winner.
His philosophies are more in tune with todays football not the football of last century.
He has an aura that the club needs around the place today.
He commands respect of every young footballer in the country.
He is a leader in every way.
He is a complete team player.
He isnt aloof .
Hee is marketable



Now you tell me about SOS...

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You should see Voss do the sports on Ch9. :oops:

Do we really want that as our next coach??? :oops:


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