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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:24 pm 
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The issue with Freo for me is Pavlich. He's too fast for Whitnall, too tall for Thornton and too agile for Livo. Livo will play on McPharlin so that's fine but Pavlich will kill us if Thornton doesn't have a very good game.

I wouldn't worry about the forward line.

Out: Fisher
In: Setanta O'hAilpin


Based on the game against the Dees, Deluca, Kouta and Sporn should be dropped. As yet we do not have the depth to cover them given our current list of injuries.


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Andain wrote:
The issue with Freo for me is Pavlich. He's too fast for Whitnall, too tall for Thornton and too agile for Livo. Livo will play on McPharlin so that's fine but Pavlich will kill us if Thornton doesn't have a very good game.

I wouldn't worry about the forward line.

Out: Fisher
In: Setanta O'hAilpin


Hence why I'd put Walker on him.
Has the pace and the leap to match it with him.

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Who will come into the side to take Fisher spot?
Do we bring in Chambers or Russell? Or do we add another runner to the fleet and give young Blackwell a game?


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Chambers.

At least he knows the ins and outs of the grounds.
However, I'd love to see Russell get a gig.
Would mean the first 4 numbers on our list are all playing on the same night.

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Sporn or Lappin could line up on Pavlich and we might bring in another runner or maybe two if they decide not to go with 3 rucks in Perth.


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Based on the game against the Dees, Deluca, Kouta and Sporn should be dropped. As yet we do not have the depth to cover them given our current list of injuries.


Kouta? I think in his 250th game he's entitled to have a quiet one!!!

If we dropped players every time they had a quiet game we'd hardly have a team some weeks!


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nightcrawler wrote:
Is it just me, or does Freo always cop an interstate flogging the week before we have to go over to Perth to play them? They always seem to have something to prove when we have to play them. I'm a bit sick of that, I hope we stick it up them this time round.


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phoenix johnson wrote:
Andain wrote:
The issue with Freo for me is Pavlich. He's too fast for Whitnall, too tall for Thornton and too agile for Livo. Livo will play on McPharlin so that's fine but Pavlich will kill us if Thornton doesn't have a very good game.

I wouldn't worry about the forward line.

Out: Fisher
In: Setanta O'hAilpin


Hence why I'd put Walker on him.
Has the pace and the leap to match it with him.

Walker just found his confidence playing a role for us running off half back, lets not destroy it by forcing him to play on Pavlich. He's not even close to being ready for that kind of responsibility.


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Conundrum wrote:
Andain wrote:
The issue with Freo for me is Pavlich. He's too fast for Whitnall, too tall for Thornton and too agile for Livo. Livo will play on McPharlin so that's fine but Pavlich will kill us if Thornton doesn't have a very good game.

I wouldn't worry about the forward line.

Out: Fisher
In: Setanta O'hAilpin


Based on the game against the Dees, Deluca, Kouta and Sporn should be dropped. As yet we do not have the depth to cover them given our current list of injuries.

Kouta stays. He can have one poor game in a career can't he?

Sporn and Deluca however are fair game.


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amazonstud wrote:
Who will come into the side to take Fisher spot?
Do we bring in Chambers or Russell? Or do we add another runner to the fleet and give young Blackwell a game?


T-Lo !!!


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amazonstud wrote:
Who will come into the side to take Fisher spot?
Do we bring in Chambers or Russell? Or do we add another runner to the fleet and give young Blackwell a game?


T-Lo !!!


Precisely.


Bring T-Lo in for Fisher and O'hAilpin in for DeLuca.

Walker picks up Medhurst, T-Bird picks up Pavlich.

We ran them pretty close last time we played in Perth (about 17 points I think) but we have some legspeed and a real midfield rotation in place now. Guys like Simpson, Betts, Carazzo and Murphy will have the legspeed to keep up with the Dockers midfield. If we can fire up forward we could be a chance.

There's also a chance that the Freo boys might be on strike as a way of forcing the coach out. The dissent has been brewing for some time. A loss to last year's wooden spooners would leave Conolly in trouble sooner rather than later.


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Andain wrote:
The issue with Freo for me is Pavlich. He's too fast for Whitnall, too tall for Thornton and too agile for Livo. Livo will play on McPharlin so that's fine but Pavlich will kill us if Thornton doesn't have a very good game.

I wouldn't worry about the forward line.

Out: Fisher
In: Setanta O'hAilpin


the answer - Waite.

we beat them in the midfield, and harass and pressure like we did against melbourne and get plenty of ball to the likes of Waite and Fevola and you may find that they put pavlich on Waite whihc is a win for us.

but for me personally i would go with this.

deluca out - bring in Setanta - i see far more value in playing setanta as much as possible than playing deluca - setanta brings just as much, if not more to the table that deluca. if he is fit, setanta in, deluca out.

fisher out - bring in Russel - i reckon on the open ground that is Subi he could be allowed to run free and have abit of impact, another runner is essential.

Our structure for the first time in a long time was right.

Livingston, Thorton, McGrath, Whitnall, Lapping, Walker in defence
Russel, Stevens, Bentick, French, Kouta, Simpson in the centre
Fevola, Waite, Setanta, Betts, Murphy, Carazzo in attack

looks about right for me, lets be pro-active, let them match us up, be positive and go out with the right mind set, you win that battle and you are already on the front foot.

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Blackwell is not a runner :?

Russell or Chambers in for Sporn
Santy/Saddo in for Fisher
Maybe even drop De Luca so both Santy and Saddo can come into the side.

Walker or Thornton on Pavlich:
Thornton pros: 2 cms taller than Pav, about the same reach, should hold his own in a physical contest despite Pav's superior weight.

Thornton cons: Pace, spring and agility versus Pav especially seeing Pav plays mainly off the lead when up forward. Question on his motor to keep up with Pav the whole game.

Walker pros: Pace, agility, spring to go with Pav and actually concedes very few extra kilos to that of T-Bird vs Pav. Has the motor to go with Pav.

Walker cons: Unproven in terms of using his body in a contest, concedes 3 cms and a bit more in reach to Pav.

My choice: Walker unless he decides to sit in the square and wrestle for the ball, then put Whitnall or McLaren on him.

Why? Joel Smith is 185 cms and 85 kgs. He smashed Pav because Pav doesn't like or know how to use his body as a forward. Very much a leading player. Walker has all the attributes that Smith used to beat Pav. It's going to be a case of making Pav ineffective rather than shutting him out of the game. The further he has to push out of the forward 50 for the ball, the better. Walker has exceptional acceleration so he might be able to get in front on a few occassions.

Pavlich really needs to upgrade his skills as a forward if he wants to stay up there, for someone who is 100+ kgs, he is very soft. Might want to lean up a bit and head back into the midfield.

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I wouldn't have entertained the idea of Walker on Pavlich, I was leaning towards T Bird or Saddo, but the way you supported this argument Jimmae using the Joel Smith example, this move does have some merit.

With Walker, Lappin and Houlihan playing the HB line, we do set a rather attacking tone, and another challenge for Connolly to think about, let alone Pavlich.

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I think Satanta has nerve trouble below his calf, possibly still another week away...

We will still need ADL for height - we have been a very short team against Freo in the past.

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Wet Willie wrote:
I think Satanta has nerve trouble below his calf, possibly still another week away...

We will still need ADL for height - we have been a very short team against Freo in the past.


Well I think either Saddles or Setanta should come in for Fisher.

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phoenix johnson wrote:
Wet Willie wrote:
I think Satanta has nerve trouble below his calf, possibly still another week away...

We will still need ADL for height - we have been a very short team against Freo in the past.


Well I think either Saddles or Setanta should come in for Fisher.

Should be Santy as Saddo needs to get match fit and doesn't really suit as a replacement. Might see Russell or Chambers come in for Sporn too.

But I and about 40 others have already said this several times - thread creation is rife atm. :P

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