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I'm not a Houligan fan but I agree with slo mo..I thought Houlihan was eying the football in a slightly bent over position and Medhurst lined him up and had no interest in the ball at all....Medhurst cited and suspended is the correct decision IMHO...


Yeah but you are a paid up member of the 'Protect Ryan's Hair & Beauty Committee' aren't you Elwood. :wink:


Hehe...nice one BB .....the Sheik cracked me up with that line.....remember in junior footy when there was an awards night and players were getting awards for MVP, best defender, clubman etc..one poor kid got the Revlon award from the coach due to the fact he had the long hair and spent a fair amount of time and mums money putting product in it....yellow footy boots didnt help his cause either......

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Houlihan's head was not over the ball.


Ok, so it may not have been directly over the ball, but he had eyes for the ball and Medhurst did not.


If the ball is within ten metres then a hip and shoulder is allowed, eyes for the ball or not.

If what medhurst did is illegal then a great part of this game has been thrown away.

Had he made contact with his body yes, but not the head.


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Freo are going to go to the tribunal. Hope he gets it extended.

FWIW Mike Sheahan says "Paul Medhurst should be pretty pleased with his one-match suspension, too."

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 23,00.html


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Picking blokes off in a Pickett style fashion which is what Medhurst did isnt what the game is about...being a sniper isnt being tough....sure it was within ten metres but he wasnt interested in the ball...just taking out an opponent and picking his man at that...if that had been Riccuito instead of Houlihan for example that contact would never have taken place becuase a sniper like Medhurst wouldnt have the gonads to attempt it......
French or one of out big blokes should have dealt with him and taken the two weeks......I see it as investment for the future....the sooner I see that happen the sooner I know we have a real team with real leadership. and players being willing to sacrifice..I know others wont agree but the tribunal cant and wont deal with many of these individuals and sometimes you need to dispense your own justice.....

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Freo are going to go to the tribunal. Hope he gets it extended.

FWIW Mike Sheahan says "Paul Medhurst should be pretty pleased with his one-match suspension, too."

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 23,00.html

AHAHAHAH Medhurst you idiot! Yes... 2 to 3 weeks for being a shithead.

Deano, he elbowed and landed his hip into Houla's shoulder, with his elbow sliding up into his head.

Houla was well and truly low to the ground going for the ball whereas Medhurst wandered in and took him out.

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Freo are going to go to the tribunal. Hope he gets it extended.

FWIW Mike Sheahan says "Paul Medhurst should be pretty pleased with his one-match suspension, too."

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 23,00.html

AHAHAHAH Medhurst you idiot! Yes... 2 to 3 weeks for being a shithead.

Deano, he elbowed and landed his hip into Houla's shoulder, with his elbow sliding up into his head.

Houla was well and truly low to the ground going for the ball whereas Medhurst wandered in and took him out.


One last time: Houla's head was not over the ball, and the elbow raised after impact.

Run off and hip and shoulder something solid, and try to keep your elbow down after impact. Just like Newton's cradle, it will bounce up in reaction to the impact.

The ball was within range, and the bump was fair IMO. If Bentick does that to Kirk next week I'll be a happy man. If he gets booked for it I'll be pissed.

I'll say this one last time then I'll piss off, as this is becoming a circular discussion. IMO Medhurst was stiff, even though he's a tool. If there's no room in this game for a player to be taken out by a decent, legitimate shirtfront then that's a bloody sad thing.

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Deano Supremo wrote:
jimmae wrote:
BlueWorld wrote:
Freo are going to go to the tribunal. Hope he gets it extended.

FWIW Mike Sheahan says "Paul Medhurst should be pretty pleased with his one-match suspension, too."

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 23,00.html

AHAHAHAH Medhurst you idiot! Yes... 2 to 3 weeks for being a shithead.

Deano, he elbowed and landed his hip into Houla's shoulder, with his elbow sliding up into his head.

Houla was well and truly low to the ground going for the ball whereas Medhurst wandered in and took him out.


One last time: Houla's head was not over the ball, and the elbow raised after impact.

Run off and hip and shoulder something solid, and try to keep your elbow down after impact. Just like Newton's cradle, it will bounce up in reaction to the impact.

The ball was within range, and the bump was fair IMO. If Bentick does that to Kirk next week I'll be a happy man. If he gets booked for it I'll be pissed.

I'll say this one last time then I'll piss off, as this is becoming a circular discussion. IMO Medhurst was stiff, even though he's a tool. If there's no room in this game for a player to be taken out by a decent, legitimate shirtfront then that's a bloody sad thing.


It is sad Deano but that is the rules now. You have to look like your going for the ball. Just about all the greatest crunches of all time are now illegal. Earl would have got a number of weeks for wiping out McKenna in 95. Schwass would have went for his hit on Dean in the 95 prelim as his eyes were not on the ball. I don't like the new rules either as it is softening up the game. :?

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Deano Supremo wrote:
jimmae wrote:
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Freo are going to go to the tribunal. Hope he gets it extended.

FWIW Mike Sheahan says "Paul Medhurst should be pretty pleased with his one-match suspension, too."

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/ ... 23,00.html

AHAHAHAH Medhurst you idiot! Yes... 2 to 3 weeks for being a shithead.

Deano, he elbowed and landed his hip into Houla's shoulder, with his elbow sliding up into his head.

Houla was well and truly low to the ground going for the ball whereas Medhurst wandered in and took him out.


One last time: Houla's head was not over the ball, and the elbow raised after impact.

Run off and hip and shoulder something solid, and try to keep your elbow down after impact. Just like Newton's cradle, it will bounce up in reaction to the impact.

The ball was within range, and the bump was fair IMO. If Bentick does that to Kirk next week I'll be a happy man. If he gets booked for it I'll be pissed.

I'll say this one last time then I'll piss off, as this is becoming a circular discussion. IMO Medhurst was stiff, even though he's a tool. If there's no room in this game for a player to be taken out by a decent, legitimate shirtfront then that's a bloody sad thing.

He never tucked his elbow in and I never said Houla had his head over the ball, but he was going for the ball, unlike Medhurst.

It was not a legitimate shirt front and that's why it's up.

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If there's no room in this game for a player to be taken out by a decent, legitimate shirtfront then that's a bloody sad thing.


I dunno, I don't think it's a decent, legitimate shirtfront if you jump off the ground and hit someone in the head. If it didn't hit him in the head then fine, but are you saying anybody should be allowed to just go around and pick their opponents off one by one by knocking them out with a 'decent, legitimate shirtfront'? It isn't courageous or tough, it's weak

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fevolaaaa wrote:
Deano Supremo wrote:
If there's no room in this game for a player to be taken out by a decent, legitimate shirtfront then that's a bloody sad thing.


I dunno, I don't think it's a decent, legitimate shirtfront if you jump off the ground and hit someone in the head. If it didn't hit him in the head then fine, but are you saying anybody should be allowed to just go around and pick their opponents off one by one by knocking them out with a 'decent, legitimate shirtfront'? It isn't courageous or tough, it's weak


Earl Spalding must have been weak then. Rhys-Jones too. :roll:

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Deano Supremo wrote:
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If there's no room in this game for a player to be taken out by a decent, legitimate shirtfront then that's a bloody sad thing.


I dunno, I don't think it's a decent, legitimate shirtfront if you jump off the ground and hit someone in the head. If it didn't hit him in the head then fine, but are you saying anybody should be allowed to just go around and pick their opponents off one by one by knocking them out with a 'decent, legitimate shirtfront'? It isn't courageous or tough, it's weak


Earl Spalding must have been weak then. Rhys-Jones too. :roll:
Spalding collected Mckenna with a side bump which sent the eagles player to the deck where he hit his head and was knocked out..I like a few others felt Medhurst raised the ebow and contacted Houlihan high with intent to do so...thats where we differ...nothing wrong with a decent dump provided its not to the head or with elbows raised...Earl never resorted to cheap shots...aggressive player but never dirty.....

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I haven't seen the game yet but good on houla for getting on with it after the bump. Just one question...did he see Medhurst coming?

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Medhurst has pleaded guilty but wants to have the charge downgraded from reckless to negligent & is after a reprimand.

Derek Humphrey-Smith on SEN says he is amazed he is even trying that. Just picked a player off. Is lucky to have only got a week.

Also can't undertsand why no investiagtion into Murphy incident. I think it was seen by a number of players.


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OFF!!! :evil: (downgraded to 93.75 points)

DHS is amazed. Open slather to pick players off now.


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OFF!!! :evil: (downgraded to 93.75 points)

DHS is amazed. Open slather to pick players off now.

He got off? You're kidding.

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I haven't seen the game yet but good on houla for getting on with it after the bump. Just one question...did he see Medhurst coming?


Had his eye on the ball- unlike Medhurst who lined him up.


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Deano stop saying his head wasn't over the ball.
It makes no difference.
At the end of the day Medhurst made INTENTIONAL contact with Houla's HEAD, and it wasn't a soft hit. That is not on buddy.

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Just watched it again and Houlihan was bending over (no jokes) taking possession of the ball when he was hit.

If that isn't 'your head over the ball' I don't know what is?

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Just watched it again and Houlihan was bending over (no jokes) taking possession of the ball when he was hit.

If that isn't 'your head over the ball' I don't know what is?

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