Bring back Peter Dean, Fraser Brown, Wayne Johnstone, Jim Buckley, Greg Williams or David Rhys Jones. Any of those guys would do!!!

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Seriously though, Kennedy will do this with ease in a year or two, apparently he already did this in the practise matches. Unrelenting is our Josh.

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[The leadership group have to take responsibilty for this and if that means that someone has to do something out of charachter, then so be it.[/quote]

A perfect example of doing a thing out of character was on Sat night at Freo when Whitnall came through the centre through a pack and "nearly" cleaned up a Freo player.If he really wanted to he wouldve cleaned him up and not NEARLY hit him.We need players like Whitnall and Koutawho have good size on them hitting the packs hard so opposition players feel it and are intimidated.Why not have a player like Wiggins who hasnt got the most talent in the world but is a hard nut to come in and crunch and head hunt some players???Most good teams have these sorta players!
Whitnall should've done it out of Character and crunched him!

Welcome to the big time kiddo.................Best thing that could have happened to the kid.He's found out in a very short time what its all about.Learn the hard lessons early and the rest is a piece of cake.
Want this young fella to learn to fight his own battles and not rely on others.Noticed folks,he didnt scare .A real good sign.Kept on after the ball.Loved that myself.
You guys are making a mountain out of a molehill.He copped a smack in the mouth.Big deal.
The Carlton Football Club has had more than its share of tough cookies over the years so who are we to squeal.Cut it out.It's un Carlton like.

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Love your work Mickstar.

If i were playting Carlton id be getting the players to work over ours.
Young list with not many older types that have the stomach for any stouches.
Were lucky the umpiring protects players more these days.
Ten years ago our players would have been smashed.

Still... i reckon were acumulating a few players who wont take backwards steps as they get more mature.

Nothing like having a coouple of harder nuts around the place anyway.
We dont have many...

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In fcat i think this - more than early drafting of 'talent' is the mechanism that restricts teams from dominating for years and years. You draft kids - kids get 'beaten up' for a few years - kids turn into men, fight it out, men turn into big experienced men who then beat up the kids.

Eg Essendon* beat up Brisbane who beat up Essendon* and Geelong who beats up Brisbane.

Its all about age now because realistically talent is mostly found in the kids and kids are easy to beat up on. But age wearies the beater uppers and makes beater uppers of kids.

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Who's going to protect Josh Kennedy, you ask? I'll tell you who is going to protect Josh Kennedy.

Josh Kennedy is going to protect Josh Kennedy!

The man doesn't take crap from anyone.

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Ahh David Rhys Jones.....that player was something else when it came to protecting team mates. We missed him in the 93 GF.

I was hoping we drafted Danny Stanley (the filth got him at pick 20, I think) in last years' draft - he is a hard at it player and has the attributes to be a player not to be messed around with.

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

Players need to be able to stand up for themselves.

This enforcer business is rubbish IMO, unless its one of your talentless players who is there for the express purpose (Exhibit A: Paul Barnard)

Who is our current No 1 flag flyer? B. Fevola
Who has been our most suspended regular player? B. Fevola

Same Q's and A's for the Lions and J Brown. Swans and Barry Hall. Port and Picket (til this year).

Would the coaches of those teams prefer these players out there playing or flying the flag but missing crucial games?

This whole talk of evening up is old school stuff. Rhys Jones missed an entire season with some of the stupid stuff he did.

Ponkstar you are totally missing the point here.
We are not asking for a player like B.Fevola to come out and smash people so he can serve a suspension.The point im trying to get across is that we need a litle bit of Agro from our Senior squad and need players like Whitnall and Kouta to throw their body around and do something "out of character" so other teams know taht we are not an easy target and we not be f*cked with! Kouta and Whitnall have the body size and weight to do some damage it is about time they started using rather than taking the soft option!

I am always available for Specialist Coaching role in this area of the game - however I have not as yet been asked by the club to come down.

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My personal opinion is that aggression is something you can not teach. You either have it or you don't have it.
If you want it in your club then you have got to recruit it. I see blokes like Slyvia and Jones at Melbourne being nasty boys when they get a bit older.

Whats the common factor with those players and the teams they play for....PREMIERSHIPS.......the coaches wore those suspensions as long as they were not GF's.....Choco Williams stated Port were soft and he wanted Pickett and Hardwick to combat the Craybros at bris etc..result=Flag.
Brown and co terrified Collingwood during the GF's thye played in.....Richard Cole, Rhys Shaw and Shane Obree were targeted for being weak and have never been the same since.....

All the good flag teams have them...even the crap premiership teams.....
like Collingwood in 1990..Darren Millane was a Dandy boy who scared players......the facts prove they are an essential part of a team...

Dean Wallis, Roger Merrett...all premeriship players, all protectors/enforcers.....remember Wallis taking out the dangerous goalkicking Brad Green in a final..Green has been labelled soft since and doesnt have the confidence to be the player he could have been....

Look at Geelong..favourites to win the flag...Milburn and Mooney take care of business....Josh Hunt, Scarlett as well.... their soft skillful players get protection....and have confidence....and will probably win the flag.....

Earl Spalding, Fraser Brown gave us that grunt factor we needed...when Ratten was copping it you knew Fraser would be in their dealing with the aggressors.....our young blokes dont have that although I am hoping Josh Kennedy can remedy that...its should be senior players but that aint going to happen is it?

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Well said!

Great post Elwood.

I understand the requirement of aggression; it is after all a physical contact game. Nobody wants to be laid out cold or injured in a game, nor do they plan for it. But if you are not a physical player (re Geelong lightweights) you do gain confidence if you have the physical around you, and if you don't go in harder than your opponent you know you will always come out second best.

Our guys are building muscle and body strength, but we have another year or two for most of our guys before they are perfect weight, and still able to run and run.

My concern is that we haven't reached that level yet (ref Lions and Port scenarios in GF's), and I don't believe one player in Kennedy will be the answer, but a piece of the puzzle.

We need an even spread of good physical players who will wear down opponents as well as protect our smaller guys. The area we need to improve in is the team oriented skills such as shepherding, blocking and hunting in numbers.

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