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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 5:49 pm 
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waite is over-rated.... just a ridiculous statement.
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he has the potential to be one of the best players in the league and just dominant every game.


waite is over-rated yet you reckon he could be one of the best players in the league and dominate. well is he over-rated or a potential superstar?


What I mean is that alot of people are pumping him up to have a huge season from two "good" games when he really hasn't played that well and he has been pumped up for a while now, when will he deliver?


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waite is over-rated.... just a ridiculous statement.
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he has the potential to be one of the best players in the league and just dominant every game.


waite is over-rated yet you reckon he could be one of the best players in the league and dominate. well is he over-rated or a potential superstar?


What I mean is that alot of people are pumping him up to have a huge season from two "good" games when he really hasn't played that well and he has been pumped up for a while now, when will he deliver?


Well he only had one good game for starters.

The reason you think he is overated is because your expectations are high. I reckon he goes alright as a flanker but struggles in one on one contests. For what it's worth I think a few overate him when they call him a superstar but most here know his value to the team.

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He may be inconsistent and an ordinary shot for goal but the fact that.....

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he has only played 52 games of footy


is a pretty important point. If he can get to 100-ish games with out too many more injury problems then look out.


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Massive in potential, short on delivery thus far.

He will still be a great player, but is still immature and will need more time.

More of a Mil Hanna type than a Sticks Kernahan. Hard runner, athletic, can turn a match with moments of brilliance, hard to match up as a 3rd or 4th forward, but no week in week out delivery.

He'll be a vital cog in the Carlton machine in 2 years time.

Agreed.
Apart from this post the rest of the replies in this thread are pathetic.

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I've said it before on another site, and I'll say it again...

5th in the B&F, 36 goals and representing Australia looks pretty good to me.

Given Camporeale, Stevens, Whitnall and Koutoufides were the players ahead of him, I think it speaks volumes of where he is at in the rankings of young players at Carlton.

Funny how people ignore the 36 goals as well.

5 in two games averages out to over 50 this year.

People call themselves "realists" ... what do you realistically expect from Waite...the B&F, Brownlow, All-Australian and 100 goals? :roll:


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On the other hand people are forgetting that he was in a cam walker before the season started. He had a limited pre season AGAIN with stress fractures....Leave the kid alone he is a blue through and through. People forget the day his dad died, he still pulled on the guernsey. That fokr me speaks volumes of the kids character. Waite is a sensational footballer just needs to get his kicking right.. Riewoldt is supposedly the superstar of the league and apart from last night his kicking is shiezehousen.

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On the other hand people are forgetting that he was in a cam walker before the season started. He had a limited pre season AGAIN with stress fractures....Leave the kid alone he is a blue through and through. People forget the day his dad died, he still pulled on the guernsey. That fokr me speaks volumes of the kids character. Waite is a sensational footballer just needs to get his kicking right.. Riewoldt is supposedly the superstar of the league and apart from last night his kicking is shiezehousen.


You are part of the reason the thread starter says Waite is overated because when you put him in the same paragraph as Reiwoldt you are overating him.

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What is overrated though? There is no criteria other than a futile sweeping statement which shows little, if any, insight into Waite's play.


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is this what this forum has descended to?

Are we F@%&#! Tiger supporters eating our own?

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Well said!
Waite will be a good player for Carlton.
He might not be the next Kouta but is a good player to have. Dont write him off.
At this time his needed to play in the forward line, but i see him as a winger eg Andrew Embly.

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You are part of the reason the thread starter says Waite is overated because when you put him in the same paragraph as Reiwoldt you are overating him.


Jeez Game....I'm agreeing again.

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On the other hand people are forgetting that he was in a cam walker before the season started. He had a limited pre season AGAIN with stress fractures....Leave the kid alone he is a blue through and through. People forget the day his dad died, he still pulled on the guernsey. That fokr me speaks volumes of the kids character. Waite is a sensational footballer just needs to get his kicking right.. Riewoldt is supposedly the superstar of the league and apart from last night his kicking is shiezehousen.


You are part of the reason the thread starter says Waite is overated because when you put him in the same paragraph as Reiwoldt you are overating him.

Two highly athletic key forward sized footballers with magnificent marking abilities who have dodgy kicks on goal...

I think it's pretty apt for now.

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67 goals in a season with a dodgy kicking action?

Well @#$%&! Me! Overrate Waite any day in that case! :roll:

What a load of rubbish...until I can see anyone clearly overrating Waite based on anything other than a foolish sweeping load of cod's wollop, I think Waite is doing just fine for now.


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ubettsya wrote:
On the other hand people are forgetting that he was in a cam walker before the season started. He had a limited pre season AGAIN with stress fractures....Leave the kid alone he is a blue through and through. People forget the day his dad died, he still pulled on the guernsey. That fokr me speaks volumes of the kids character. Waite is a sensational footballer just needs to get his kicking right.. Riewoldt is supposedly the superstar of the league and apart from last night his kicking is shiezehousen.


You are part of the reason the thread starter says Waite is overated because when you put him in the same paragraph as Reiwoldt you are overating him.

Two highly athletic key forward sized footballers with magnificent marking abilities who have dodgy kicks on goal...

I think it's pretty apt for now.


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Two highly athletic key forward sized footballers with magnificent marking abilities who have dodgy kicks on goal...

I think it's pretty apt for now.


You are just saying all of this to get a reaction aren't you?

Comparing Waite favourably with Riewoldt is laughable.

What do you think they would be worth individually on the open market?

Carlton wouldn't take Riewoldt in a straight swap for Waite?

Yeah.....right.... :lol:

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Are you guys serious, and more to the point, actually reading other people's posts?


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jimmae wrote:
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On the other hand people are forgetting that he was in a cam walker before the season started. He had a limited pre season AGAIN with stress fractures....Leave the kid alone he is a blue through and through. People forget the day his dad died, he still pulled on the guernsey. That fokr me speaks volumes of the kids character. Waite is a sensational footballer just needs to get his kicking right.. Riewoldt is supposedly the superstar of the league and apart from last night his kicking is shiezehousen.


You are part of the reason the thread starter says Waite is overated because when you put him in the same paragraph as Reiwoldt you are overating him.

Two highly athletic key forward sized footballers with magnificent marking abilities who have dodgy kicks on goal...

I think it's pretty apt for now.


Correction one of them has magnificent marking abilities and he doesn't wear blue.

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verbs wrote:
Are you guys serious, and more to the point, actually reading other people's posts?


No one's reading yours, verbs.... :lol:

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:? How can anyone read "Waite is a sensational footballer just needs to get his kicking right.. Riewoldt is supposedly the superstar of the league and apart from last night his kicking is shiezehousen." and get "Waite and Riewoldt are similar players" ????

Very strange interpretation of the written word.

Besides, all it takes is to watch a couple of games to realise what the above post was referring to.

I guess you can read anything you want into something.


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If you were going to compare Waite to anyone else in the league who would it be?

One of Kouta, Pavlich and Riewoldt I suspect.

Riewoldt has a dodgy kick for goal at the moment because he is hard with his hands, gripping the ball too tight - so I finished with 'for now'.

Riewoldt's best is better than Waite's best, but we're not seeing Riewoldt's best at the moment are we.

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So how is Waite exactly overrated?

Based on what?

I'd say...absolutely nothing.


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