hope they dont rush back Fisher would love to see a full year out of him as i ithink he is one of our most exciting prospects and when he puts on a little size he will become a dangerous forward.

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if carlton even slightly starts to play like the swans i will never buy a membership again. in fact i will give up on the game. the only thing that can possibly be learnt from the swans is how to make the game into a farce. sorry mate, but that comment just rubs me the wrong way. would you rather win 4 points or play some great positive football and maybe not get the points. i can tell you right now that if you were at the game saturday night you would know that carlton created more excitement in 10 minutes of football than the swans managed in an entire match.

Absolutely. It was a contrived form of football rotten to its core. If you get the ball you have to try to score, but no, lets go sideways for minutes at a time whilst everyone gets bored. I hated that game with a passion, and that 10 minues in the 3rd was beautiful.

I fully agree with Demetri-Nobend and believe rules need to change. I think any kick backwards should have a time penalty of 10 seconds (except when you're behind) or some other artificial response. The game can do without Sydney and I hope they and all their fans have a horrible year.

THis is not the comment of a loser Carlton fan who saw yet another loss, but someone who loves watching the Doggies, the Pies at the moment - anyone who runs with entry into their forward line. I love the game at its best but have never felt so empty as I did on Saturday. The Swans make me sick and I hope they get penalised in some way.

The opinion of a few others is that Bannister is not fast as a defender trying to keep pace with a leading forward. He doesn't have the anticipation to avoid them opening up a break. He is, however, good when he is moving constantly as a defensive midfielder does, as he doesn't need to accelerate from a standing possie. If this is so, then he is hardly ideal for a forward such as Williams.

If we have a man filling the hole in front of Williams, you have to accept that Hawthorn will play a loose man in our F50. This is part of the reason you are concerned about Fev competing against a couple of opponents.

Against Sydney and Barry Hall, it was probably inevitable that we would drop back a tall to allow Lance to corral him. Otherwise, the Swans would have tried to isolate Hall and Whitnall in F50, and he has an impressive combination of strength, pace and stamina which makes him hard to control in one-on-ones. It would also have been too much to expect a small mobile player like Skinny or Scotland to fill the hole in front of him but Barney had the bulk to hold his own.

Against Hawthorn, why would you play a ruckman down back? Much better to play a mid-size defender/midfielder who can set up play from defence. Remember that this will only work if the loose Hawk in the our F50 is less damaging than our loose man. So playing Houla or Scotland might be the go.

But the alternative is to play man-on-man rather than flooding or playing with loose defenders. If Hawthorn initiates it, so be it. But apparently against Geelong, they rattled Geelong precisely becasue they played man on man.

It may well be a perfect time to play Santy. Far from Fev taking the load off him, I would think that forcing Santy to play a peripheral role and create space as he would need to do to give Fev space to lead into would hardly play to his strengths. He is a very good lead from the goalsquare, and Hawthorn doesn't have any elite tall defenders. His size and speed would create nightmares for defenders who can't take his arms in a spoil. This is a very simple task which minimises his lack of experience in the finer arts like blocking and screening, and drawing defenders out of the F50. And he has the athleticism to create defensive pressure when the Hawks get it in our F50.

You usually need 21 days after a hamstring injury. Fisher will only have had 19.

I think if you had Santy and a gloved deluca both leading from the goal square in different directions they'll have no match-ups for their combination of height and speed. Kouta anchored in the goal square will be too much for Dawson to handle. Add in whichever one of Kennedy or Fisher is right to go playing as a mobile CHF then we would be handful to contain IF we can win enough ball.

I'm lead to believe he didn't tear the muscle.

Fish trained normally last Friday, IMO, he is fit enough to play.

I like the idea of a forward for a forward so Fisher for Fevola and a half forward in Longmuir for Lappin. Agreed that we need one of either Houlihan or Scotland across half back to set up play and I would go with Scotland as I think Houlihan is the more dangerous half forward and crumber.

What about Jordan Russell in the side for Chambers? More pace and skill across the midfield with Stevens and Simpson on the other wing changing across half forward.

With Saddington and Whitnall in the side I think we have the height down back for Croad and Franklin with Teague on Dixon. Perhaps McGrath can take Williams?

With Deluca Fisher Koutifides and Longmuir we seem to have some marking firepower up forward but need some crumbers so Houlihan Betts Simpson Stevens Murphyetc front and square.

Normally?

He did the warm up work and then did run throughs on the Pratt wing whilst the rest of the team trained.

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Setanta needs more time in the VFL

I agree, I think Setanta would benefit from being the focus at FF with Fev out, and with the hawks we must pile on the defensive pressure, something I think we can rely on Setanta to do.

Perhaps so, but:

1. Santy might not see it that way as he is into his 3rd year, and to overlook him when injury has thinned out the more highly rated forwards might risk him going backwards this year.

2. With lists of just 38-40, clubs don't have the luxury of giving each player the optimal level of preparation. If you cop injuries which stretch you in a certain area, you have to cover them with players who might be underdone. I'm sure that the WB will be forced to play rucks and tall players who they would prefer to keep in the VFL for now. And I'm sure that Essendon* did not want Ryder to assume serious ruck duties quite so soon.

3. Ideally, Kennedy should play more VFL games to ensure he comes in with a good standard of match and general fitness, as well as confidence. If we need to bring in another forward, it probably means that either Santy or Kennedy should be promoted too early.

The big Irishman is chomping at the bit to get a run in the seniors!!!

I call on you Denis to UNLEASH THE BEAST!

No Fevola for a week means give Setanta a run!

The side could do with his agro. So, again, UNLEASH THE BEAST!!!!!

Amen Brother ... If Kennedy is not ready, let the fooking hitting start.

Carlos or Bryan if not Kennedy.

tough situation i would like to see Carlos come in and play around Fev, Waitey and Fish so then he gets the fourth best defender instead of the focus being on him, saying that the hawks dont have much down back Danny Jacobs, Cambel Brown, Zac Dawson.

If Lance plays up forward then bring in Setanta. Having Lance around him would be more beneficial than Deluca as Lance orders the troops around

DOO ITTTT!!!!!

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Promote Aisake and let's go the whole hog!@!!!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Is it against the rules for Vice Presidents to kit up and take the field.

Sticks would be handy out there.

If Dick Cheney can shhot people why can't Sticks play?