Board meeting 18 April 06: Graham Smorgon new president

CarltonClem · **Posted:** Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:06 am

JackWorrall wrote:

This morning on SEN, Smorgan would not be interviewed, with Andrew Maher (a Carlton supporter) saying that Smorgan had told SEN that he was not doing interviews.

If this is true, and I think Maher wouldn't be telling porkies, then what the hell is going on? At a time when our membership numbers could best be described as pathetic, surely Smorgan should be out on the hustings spruiking our club with as much energy as he can muster.

The selection of his deputies has me sharing Synbad's concerns. It seems only symbolism can be the reason for Kernahan's elevation, and Valmorbida looks to be shoring up his position.

Collins not turning up for the board meeting yesterday tells me that there is a bad odour around the committee at the moment, and I'm far from convinced that Smorgan is the person for the job.

I agree with Jack.

Why would not the new president of the Carlton Football Club, when membership is lower than last year not be out on the front foot talking up our young players, talking up about a vision that he has for the CFC.

Is it because he has no vision? Is it because he has no media savvy? If it was Eddie McGuire, he'd be out plastering the bloopin' media with Collingwood this and Collingwood that.

Why the heck is Kernahan still on the board? He might have a champion player but he last played in 1997 which is almost 10 years ago. Does he contribute to the success and the running of the club - or is he there simply because he's Kernahan?

We don't see Michael Long as a director at Essendon* simply because he won their last premiership. We don't see Wayne Carey on the board at the Kangaroos because he's there CHF of the century and champion player. Those two aren't businessmen - and from what I have seen, neither is Kernahan.

ballistic blues · **Posted:** Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:59 am

Synbad because he knocked back one morning interview its a bad decision when im sure today Smorgan at somestage will be on SEN either with KB, Mark Doran or the run home plus sports today on AW later tonight.

As for Sticks being on the board he has held the club together or there would have been break downs between footy department and board.

Lets give the bloke a go atleast a few weeks before we start bitching about him as it doesnt look good at all.

CK95 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:11 am

BlueWorld wrote:

Will have nothing to right about any more. Is never happy!!! :lol:

Good on ya Collo for giving him a well deserved serve!!!

That was a classic, loved it.

Dukes · **Posted:** Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:33 am

JackWorrall wrote:

This morning on SEN, Smorgan would not be interviewed, with Andrew Maher (a Carlton supporter) saying that Smorgan had told SEN that he was not doing interviews.

If this is true, and I think Maher wouldn't be telling porkies, then what the hell is going on? At a time when our membership numbers could best be described as pathetic, surely Smorgan should be out on the hustings spruiking our club with as much energy as he can muster.

The selection of his deputies has me sharing Synbad's concerns. It seems only symbolism can be the reason for Kernahan's elevation, and Valmorbida looks to be shoring up his position.

Collins not turning up for the board meeting yesterday tells me that there is a bad odour around the committee at the moment, and I'm far from convinced that Smorgan is the person for the job.

The breakfast show on SEN is an absolute joke and not worth appearing on. There are a number of better media options out there today to get the message across in a more sensible and appropriate forum. Let Billy ask his dumbass questions to rugby league players and geelong administrators.

Speedy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:26 pm **Posts:** 332

Dukes wrote:

JackWorrall wrote:

This morning on SEN, Smorgan would not be interviewed, with Andrew Maher (a Carlton supporter) saying that Smorgan had told SEN that he was not doing interviews.

If this is true, and I think Maher wouldn't be telling porkies, then what the hell is going on? At a time when our membership numbers could best be described as pathetic, surely Smorgan should be out on the hustings spruiking our club with as much energy as he can muster.

The selection of his deputies has me sharing Synbad's concerns. It seems only symbolism can be the reason for Kernahan's elevation, and Valmorbida looks to be shoring up his position.

Collins not turning up for the board meeting yesterday tells me that there is a bad odour around the committee at the moment, and I'm far from convinced that Smorgan is the person for the job.

The breakfast show on SEN is an absolute joke and not worth appearing on. There are a number of better media options out there today to get the message across in a more sensible and appropriate forum. Let Billy ask his dumbass questions to rugby league players and geelong administrators.

Billy might be a joke but Maher is good. The issue is that it is the highest rating show on SEN by a mile and if you were a smart President you'd be there pumping us up and using your honeymoon period to try to get members on board!!!!! Smorgon has no idea.

choc1 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:34 am

Speedy,

Saying he has no idea would be a tad naive wouldn't you think ??. Before you suggest again, have a read through this: http://www.smorgonsteel.com.au/index.cfm
As chairman of such an entity, I'd actually suggest he has a pretty good idea of how a board should operate, and what is required in order to get the club to where it needs to be. I can't think of many others who may be available and willing actually more qualified to be a president/chairman ?

I for one am happy to give him a go, and prefer this option to Collo. Now if Ted Kunkel can come on board as a new board member, now we're starting to talk heavy levels of corporate clout. Watch this space.

konstrukt · **Posted:** Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:24 pm

he is also the chairman at federation square and sits on many boards

budzy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am **Posts:** 8128

Speedy wrote:

Dukes wrote:

JackWorrall wrote:

This morning on SEN, Smorgan would not be interviewed, with Andrew Maher (a Carlton supporter) saying that Smorgan had told SEN that he was not doing interviews.

If this is true, and I think Maher wouldn't be telling porkies, then what the hell is going on? At a time when our membership numbers could best be described as pathetic, surely Smorgan should be out on the hustings spruiking our club with as much energy as he can muster.

The selection of his deputies has me sharing Synbad's concerns. It seems only symbolism can be the reason for Kernahan's elevation, and Valmorbida looks to be shoring up his position.

Collins not turning up for the board meeting yesterday tells me that there is a bad odour around the committee at the moment, and I'm far from convinced that Smorgan is the person for the job.

The breakfast show on SEN is an absolute joke and not worth appearing on. There are a number of better media options out there today to get the message across in a more sensible and appropriate forum. Let Billy ask his dumbass questions to rugby league players and geelong administrators.

Billy might be a joke but Maher is good. The issue is that it is the highest rating show on SEN by a mile and if you were a smart President you'd be there pumping us up and using your honeymoon period to try to get members on board!!!!! Smorgon has no idea.

I'm flabergasted that the President on his first day in office is knocking back media exposure!! What the hell is up with this bloke??? Why is everything so @#$%&! secretive??? What are they hiding???
All this shiftiness is very un-nerving!!!

BlueWorld · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:28 pm **Posts:** 3768

Quote:

The issue is that it is the highest rating show on SEN by a mile and if you were a smart President you'd be there pumping us up and using your honeymoon period to try to get members on board!!!!! Smorgon has no idea.

May be their highest rating show but it still has a small audience compared to other stations. He'd get a bigger audience on 3AW.

Synbad · **Posted:** Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:35 pm

choc1 wrote:

Speedy,

Saying he has no idea would be a tad naive wouldn't you think ??. Before you suggest again, have a read through this: http://www.smorgonsteel.com.au/index.cfm
As chairman of such an entity, I'd actually suggest he has a pretty good idea of how a board should operate, and what is required in order to get the club to where it needs to be. I can't think of many others who may be available and willing actually more qualified to be a president/chairman ?

I for one am happy to give him a go, and prefer this option to Collo. Now if Ted Kunkel can come on board as a new board member, now we're starting to talk heavy levels of corporate clout. Watch this space.

Ok so we know Matheisons clout.. we know what collo did.. but with Smorgons clout.. what have been his initiatives in is three years as a VP of the club and his billion dollar fortune??

ranibear · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:30 am **Posts:** 43

Just because people are rich and support Carlton doesn't mean they have to give money to the club - they support the club in their own ways. They are businessmen - they wouldn't expect a hand out at their businesses and Carlton shouldn't expect one either. The club is a business and is supposed to make the money - if it doesn't it goes under just like any other business - take the emotion out of it.

Carlton now have a number of astute businessmen on the board, and in POWER, and now its their turn to do it their way. Let them have a go for a while and consider the efforts come the next AGM - Carlton will be in the red for a couple of years so it really is a year by year exercise.

Synbad · **Posted:** Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:50 pm

ranibear wrote:

Just because people are rich and support Carlton doesn't mean they have to give money to the club - they support the club in their own ways. They are businessmen - they wouldn't expect a hand out at their businesses and Carlton shouldn't expect one either. The club is a business and is supposed to make the money - if it doesn't it goes under just like any other business - take the emotion out of it.

Carlton now have a number of astute businessmen on the board, and in POWER, and now its their turn to do it their way. Let them have a go for a while and consider the efforts come the next AGM - Carlton will be in the red for a couple of years so it really is a year by year exercise.

Yes we know that.. but im asking for his initiatives.

And if they cant give money and they cant bring money .. what the hell is the point of them being there.???

We will get out of this in a couple/ few years.. but its not because of ANYTHING SMORGAN HAS EVER DONE!!!....

Its others.. who will tip money in.. or will bring in a Dan Murphy... Or will set up a ripper deal from the Dome...or did organise the redevelopment.

Some have run as far as they can.. i wanna know.. what Smorgon has done in three years????

I dont give a rats ar$e is hes a billionaire.. its about performance...

Hes been riding on the coat tail of Collo and Mathieson...!!!

Whats he done??
Grade his performance for us...

dannyboy · **Posted:** Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:51 pm

but everything they do right will be someone else's work and everything they do wrong will be their own fault - we know the script, this is all Mills and Boonish, no need to wait, it all turns out swell in the end - doesn't it?????? :shock:

budzy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am **Posts:** 8128

ranibear wrote:

The club is a business and is supposed to make the money - if it doesn't it goes under just like any other business - take the emotion out of it.

This supporter will never look at his club "as just a business"!

This supporter will never be emotionless towards the footy club which has been a part of his life longer than he can remember!

I would say most Carlton supporters, Mathieson included, would feel the same.

dannyboy · **Posted:** Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:01 pm

true but I wouldn't want me in charge either cos I have this silly belief we are the greatest club on earth.

camel · **Posted:** Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:03 pm

dannyboy wrote:

but everything they do right will be someone else's work and everything they do wrong will be their own fault - we know the script, this is all Mills and Boonish, no need to wait, it all turns out swell in the end - doesn't it?????? :shock:

I just want the heavy breathing and manly touches thanks. :lol:

Synbad · **Posted:** Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:04 pm

dannyboy wrote:

but everything they do right will be someone else's work and everything they do wrong will be their own fault - we know the script, this is all Mills and Boonish, no need to wait, it all turns out swell in the end - doesn't it?????? :shock:

Dannyboy... you need different tiers of people to go forward.
They do right .. and when they go as far as they can go they cant go any more..

Its like life dannyboy.. you live and you live then you die... but the world still continues on.. someone comes up with a motor to put on a carriage so it drives.

The guy that discovered the wheel didnt think of it did he??
Collo did what he could.. he still had a few things up his sleeve to announce.. the Mathieson thing for one.. the development.. and he would have probably pulled the pin.

along come a the opportunists and steal their thunder.(plus Mathieson)
I wanna know what their very own initiatives have been..

Could smorgon have ejected Elliot?
Would he have given us a great deal at the dome?
Sponsorships due to Smorgo?
Has he worked on the brand??
Money???

Whats he done????

Yes i know he was chairing the move out of Optus to the MCG and the Dome...

Great work!!!

Deserves the presidency and the kudos from Matheisons hard work.

dannyboy · **Posted:** Wed Apr 19, 2006 1:10 pm

@#$%&! the wheel, who invented the attacking half back flanker ahh Ragsy Gould i loved your work!

I do not care who did what with whom's wife (ask CK for that stuff) past is past. I want someone who will help with us moving forward.

Is Smorgan the man? Well I do not know and so i am willing to give him a chance. Then based on the short time until we get to vote again, I'll watch and I'll decide and then I'll cast a vote. What is important is that we never allow an entity unlimited tenure. Equally though, we must give people a chance to prove their worth when in a new position.

Like you know if we moved Livo to CHF then what he did as FB is not the point, its what he does as a CHF that counts and if in that move we suddenly start winning because of other guys playing better well shit that's life, some people get the sucker punch others get the punch bowl.

In the meantime I hope we belt the @#$%&! hawks!!!

Ockham's Razor · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:27 pm **Posts:** 1689

Synbad,

You constantly refer to Mathieson "giving" us the Dan Murphy's sponsorship.

Are you sure about this?

He has NO controlling ownership interest in Dan's. It is a publicly owned business (woolworths) accountable to its board. Whilst Bruce undoubtedly has contacts at Dan's - to suggest that he alone arranged the Dan's sponsorship is a long bow to draw without specific proof.

IMO Bruce is very good for our board - I just want an honest, even handed portrayal of each board member's contribution - without any gilding of the lily.

Regards
Ockham

Elwood Blues1 · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:10 am **Posts:** 4827

Interim move in my opinion and I dont agree its the right move and would have preferred Lee and some fresh ideas....silvertails might like it but this club has moved on from that image and needs to be seen as modern, innovative and appealing to the masses....Smorgan isnt the right fit and will only slow our progress until Lee takes over....

Board meeting 18 April 06: Graham Smorgon new president

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