Watching Chambers, Teague, Bannister and Longmuir in the team ahead of Russell et.al feels a bit like a re-tread policy to me

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The good news Tyrant, is there will be a few less of them next year

and more of Murphy

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Gabriel Zombie is a senior partner at one of Australia's biggest accounting firms. When he took over the Melbourne presidency, supposedly they were debt-free. By the end of his rein, they were about to fold. Be careful what you wish for. A football club is not the same as a box factory

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Zombie was a tax guy that everyone hated. He was up at Pricewaterhousecoopers tax doing superannuation funds, not running accounts like Collins.

Zombie was an absolute doughnut to work for too.

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Hmm...i haven't notice Bannister and Longmuir keeping Russell out of the side this year. You must mean McLaren. He's a retread right? Good call...let's put Russell in the ruck, he's obviously ready for a crack at the AFL.

Great synopsis.... I do not believe i can compete against such a cognitive heavyweight, so I will withdraw my opinion. I was wrong to have it. I apologise to you all for wasting your time. How dare I draw parallels between this season and last season.

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accepted oh flyweight

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

cognitive heavyweight c'mon Tyrant, that's a bit ordianry from you considering you like to think you are a bit of a cognitive heavyweight yourself.

I don't disagree with the general premise of your arguement but it is the inflexibility of your position that i can't agree with. All i was suggesting is that it is not Longmuir who is keeping Russell out of the side any more than McClaren is. Maybe Russell may have to take some responsibility for his plight also.

I don't consider we gave up too much for Longmuir. Due to his injury last year i don't think he has been given much of an opportunity to perform for Carlton, and i certainly don't feel he has taken the place of the younger members of the squad too often. I also think we picked up Longmuir when we thought we were going to get Nobel in the PSD - not Eddie Betts who i'd suggest has taken Longmuir's place. So in effect i'd say that the youngsters Betts and Fisher (when fit) have kept the more experinced Longmuir out of the side.

As for Russell where were you planning on playing him that Longmuir would be his direct competition for a place? I see them as having different attributes and offering quite different dimensions to the team - i don't necessarily see them in direct competition.

I'd like to see youth filtered through the team as well, and as i don't get the opportunity to go to the VFL i'm as keen to see Russell as anyone, but part of list management is to get the best out of ALL players on the list. That may involve giving the kids some time to ease into the AFL... and possibly someone who has been at our club for just over a year and is finally putting his injuries behind him, who is consitently too good for VFL may have something to offer our side.

What we need to do is some smart trading into the 1st round of this years' draft. Players like maybe Houlihan, Stevens or Whitnall could be considered as genuine trade bait for 1st rounders, although alot depends on Houlihan's performance for the rest of the year.

Regardless of the finishing position, we need to get smart at the trading table like the Dawks did with Hay, Thompson, etc. getiing 1st rounders for them (cannot believe that!!!) and do this over a 1 to 2 year period.

Whilst getting more 1st rounders doesn't necessarily guarantee 10 year players, chances are better than other rounds, and more so this year as the talk is the draft runs deep. Trading into the 1st round this year will be more difficult given the supposed talent on offer, so clubs will play hard ball even harder.

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

The key factor in all of those great trades the hawks pulled off was not the genius of the Hawks, but the stupidity of the Kangaroos.

What we need to do is convince the Roos that Prenda is the next Carey, and Davies the next Stevens, and we could nab ourselves 4 first rounders.

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Congratulations CK95

thats right and like i have said to make money you need to spend money and we aint got any!

So how did the first person ever make money before he made his first dollar do it???

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He went to the bank and got a loan....

SShhhhhhhhhhhh i want bullistic to engage...

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wait your turn...

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*rides in on horse*

Put something on!!... youre not Lady Godiva...!!

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Ooh...The Beatles.

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