Bingo. Cyph we don't have any enforcers let alone one angry footballer who may have got up on the wrong side of the bed (except for Fev who likes to throw his weight around)!

I agree with the perception argument. I still don't know why we got rid of Hulme, at least he flew the flag ala Vandenberg style.

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Kouta was appalling. He was about 10m away and he didn't even fly the flag at all. Ridiculous. Leaders don't do that. They let the opposition know, legally, that that kind of thing isn't on.

Shocking from Kouta.

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Wouldn't want to cost Kouta a fine for wrestling, do we now. He'd be light on cash flow wise.

After all, he's on circa $45,500 a game!!!

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

Hmmmmm, Croad to be sent up by Scwabby?? I hardly think so - they play Essendon* next week and could sure use him. Oh, Scwabby isn't the hawthorn coach anymore??

Seems he's still on the payroll - Fev rubbed out by Schwab for the hawks game 2 years running - coincidence ?

Fair dinkum, I can't beleive the umpiring these days. We've got free kicks when a player is brushed by another, goals from 50 metre penalties when the ball isn't hand delivered, and players being suspended for what should have been just a simple free kick - the rules committee and umpires need to have a good look at their role in the game.

The problem is they cannot possibly stay consistant on these interpretations because they'd do nothing but give free kicks, games would be decided by 50m penalties and half the most couragess and determined players would be watching from the stands every other week.....it's a joke

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I know that we can't really compare incidences as each one is different but how they could rub Fev out who didn't touch Kirk's head & not look at Croad's who only connected with Russell's head has got me beat...

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Fev 1 week... Pretty soft , Kirk got up straight away no real issue.
Leppa 2 weeks ... Nearly took Goddards head off..Blood Flowing...

And Croad...

I've got no idea how the system works. Me confused.

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Duke, i whole heartedly agree but alas, i fail to see a solution in the short term. The introduction of a fourth umpire will only lead to MORE stupid free kicks based on one man's interpretation of the rule which varies from week to week. Yes, if the unpires were at least consistent, no problem, but i really struggle to see the consistency in some free kicks....eg....lance's spoil on croad in the first quarter, given a free.....murph getting pulled to the ground by an opponent not even looking at the ball called play on in the third????

it is just not consistent...the rules that are in place are sensible, and given the right interpretation, could lead to watch an amazing game of footy. it just seems that the umpires are too easily influenced by the crowd, by the players, by the media. there needs to be a way of ensuring that the umpires all see the incident the same way......but how do we make this happen...

oh and this also applies to the tribunal so i dont get too far away from the actual topic that the thread is about.

croad---should have definately gotten at least a week....careless...reckless...call it whatever you want, he elbowed a KID in the back of the head while he wasnt looking and had no intention of doing otherwise. a cowards act.....

and i also agree, shithouse by kouta and every other player within a 50m radius that didnt let croad know that this is weak.

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I think we need to recruit some players who are angry... if its a line-ball at draft day between supremely talented player A, and supremely talented player B who gets angry (but not stupid... but delicately walking the line of stupid), I say GET B.

I hope one day we recruit my all-time hero Campbell Brown. I think we should trade our 5th round pick, Justin Davies and a ball of my navel lint for Campbell Brown, my hero.

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It's an easy solution in regard to the tribunal - An act of agression or extreme carelesness should be punished, while an accidental incident or mild infringement should be penalised (free kick) - the KISS theory.

As for the free kicks - again very simple, any infringement that impedes another player from possessing the ball or contesting should be penalised. A tug of the jumper or nudge in the back that does not disrupt a players ability to acquire the ball - PLAY ON!!

A player should be reported for diving or playing in a 'soccer' fashion for bringing the game into disrepute (take note Lloyd and Campo )

This is a contact sport played by men - not children (Yikes, I'm starting to sound like Sam Newman )

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Young Luke looks like a kid .... plays like a man!! Got his hed smashed up last year .... but it hasn't stopped him putting his head over the pill. Very excited about seeing him take the next step. Played well for the Bullants on saturday. He just keeps finding the footy.
As for jordan Russell .... loved the way he got straight to his feet and got on with playing footy. Well done JR!!

Buckley's dive against the Roos last week in the goal square, 1st qtr would have done Lloyd proud.

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Croad has been cited.

With early Plea

93.75 points.

Gets away with repremand.

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I nearly put my foot through the TV when I heard that..... Wasn't it Dermie who wrote an article on Croad a few years back (before he left for Freo or just after) about how Croad was his sucessor to smashing blokes and Croad was more than happy to take on the mantle (gave a few quotes along those lines)?..... There was a picture of him standing in front of some flashy car wearing a long leather jacket or something similar to make him look tough.

It was a dead-set snipe deserving of more than the system allows.

Disagree with many thoughts that hitting a kid should be viewed differently to anyone who's been in the game for a while (in the eyes of the tribunal/media/etc)

Whole-heartedly agree that the senior players on our list are piss-weak for not flying the flag and delivering a few jumper punches or a miss-timed spoil from behind.

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Croad is very lucky IMO.

http://carltonfc.com.au/default.asp?pg= ... eid=260230

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Interesting that Fevola was medium impact when he didn't hit anyones head or hurt anyone, and that was low impact when it gave Russell concussion and made him visit hospital I think I read on here

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Croad should have been banned from using any hair products for at least 3 weeks...something that would REALLY hurt him...

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