I actually like the fact that it's always Collingwood v Essendon*.

It's the one day of the year when I'm happy to see Collingwood win

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That was a game against Port Adelaide at the friendless Telstra Dome where the cost of entry is $50.

Do you not recall the Friday night games at the G where North Melbourne played Essendon*, Geelong or anyone really where Carey would take on the opposition? Those games consistently brought in 60,000 - 70,000 people each time. I realise that Carey isn't playing any more.

The point being that the Kangaroos are now playing at TD and so are not attracting numbers any more. Look at Essendon*. Their membership boomed when they were based at the G. Now look at it... sideways. Carlton's membership? Well, I hate to state the obvious, but it has gone south this year.

However, put on a big event at a major ground (such as at the G - the People's Ground) on a beautiful day with nothing else on and they will come.

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I'm all for a Queens birthday clash against the tigers every year....

Regardless of the weather, people will go you would think. It's all in the marketing..

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My motivation is not to begrudge what Collingwood and Essendon* have done. There is a bit of if it aint broke don't fix it.

We need to get proactive - and merely following the leads of other clubs and selling home games interstate is garbage.

My proposal with West Coast needs to be done properly, or we could finish up as the Washington Generals.

However I reiterate - we have enormous support over there - we need to leverage that. In 2004 we had a WA company sponsor us for the game against the Eagles. There was 750 people at some pub for the pre match function - and those people weren't just from Perth, I spoke to people from different parts of WA that support Carlton and make a big event of it.

Whilst we in Melb have Aus Open, Boxing Day test, Grand Final Day, Cup Day....you get the message, do WA have any special event days with any sort of tradition around them??

Create an event, become pivotal to that event, make them want the event every year so much that they throw heaps of dough at us to participate each year.

Now for someone to sort out the commercial aspects.

The fact that Collingwood and Essendon* have created this day is more a reflection on us, especially as I reckon we used to play Essendon* on Anzac Day every year when I was a kid.

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If the club was smart they would hound the AFL to get the Good Friday game and make it their own

ANZAC day has been stitched up with Collingwood and Essendon*

Mothers day and Queens birthday also seem to be gone


Friday night Game or Twilight game on Good Friday

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Rather than trying to hop on a late gravy train, why don't we @#$%&! make sure we are at the forefront of initiatives such as this instead of going "duh why didn't we think of that" after the event!

Carlton should have made sure it was a part of the ANZAC Day tradition. Sheedy might be becoming a senile old fool, but his legacy will live at Essendon* long after his coaching record is forgotten.

He's now pushing an Inidigenous clash between the Bumbers and the Tigers.

The ANZAC Day game really is a great coup for Collingwood and Essendon*. There were probably only 4 clubs that could pull that off year in year out. We had a 1 in 4 chance to be part of it, and were too busy blowing sunshine up our arse believing our own self importance.

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So he's forgotten about the yearly "Marn Grook trophy" between the Bummers and the Swans?

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We're talking about playing a game on the actual day we celebrate Anzac Day.

I really enjoy the current format. There's such a big build up. The Bugle, Australiana, the spirit. I salivate that one day the exclusive day in Melbourne will be Carlton's.

The only gripe I have, is not that Ess v Coll have their game in Melbourne exclusively on the actual day we celebrate Anzac Day, but that the AFL does not allow another game nationally. I can't see the relevance to the rest of Australia..

A game between WCE and Carlton over in Perth on that day too is worth a try if it helps increase our membership reach as well as financially with sponsorship.

What would we get if we split the Sponsorships? A live game and TV exposure in WA (pretty small audience) and probably Pay TV live nationally (Classified as the 2nd best game and little cash). So it doesn't look anywhere in the vicinity of $750,000 each that Ess and Coll will get for the day's football, it's something and it stirs things up a bit.

If I wasn't so passionate for Carlton (and if we didn't desperately need that $500K?), I would just leave the current format just as it is with the MCG showcased on ANZAC Day.

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Well, I think that Ess and Collingwood played that Anzac day game in 1995, that was a classic and it took off from there. It is all marketing and you have to hand it to them. Mind you football was always on Anzac Day for many years before this. Anyone else remember 1984 when Warren Ralph missed after the siren? 1986 when we beat the Bombers at Waverley (kicking to the Police rd end, goals to Ashman, Hunter, Motley and others in the last)? I remember that there was no reserves game as no sport was allowed before 1pm – not sure if this is still the case (sorry, live in the UK).

We had a blockbuster Anzac Game againt the bombers back in 1975. Over 77,000 (believe me it was much more than that) packed into VFL Park Waverely. Maybe we should have continued the "tradition"

Result as follows:
Essendon* 4.1 9.4 12.6 16.8 104
Carlton 3.4 7.8 9.13 12.15 87

Date: 25-Apr-1975 Att: 77,770 Venue: Waverley Park

Was there that day at Waverley and would have been more than 77,000 -given public holiday and only game in town and huge publicity not sure that it wouldnt be a huge success if other teams had a go.

Take the crowd size out of the debate, the difference between 70,000 and 90,000 is nothing considering the TV audience and exposure for sponsors around the country.

Even when they played the game on a Sunday some years ago, they were playing at the G with no other competing crowds in Melbourne.

How would they feel if we played Melbourne or Richmond at the dome at the same time? It would effect their TV and gate audience - no doubt.

I think any game on the same day would take at least 30% of their viewers away from them, so really, they are being well protected by the AFL.

I just think every club should have the opportunity to be the only match on in Melbourne on a given day and see what sort of tradition they can build .

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Why don't we play Richmond round 1 in the opening game of the season every year at the G?? Collingwood and Richmond did this for about three years and was only stopped coz Richmond broke an agreement to split the revenue, how can the AFL say no to us if both clubs request it(eventhough they will)???

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The difference between 70,000 and 90,000 is live tv coverage. If you get 90,000 it will be shown live. Live = higher ratings = higher priced ad space.

Forget for a minute it's 2 teams you hate. It's an amazing spectacle and I know supporters of all teams whos day after lunch revolves around this match. It's not just a tradition on the field, it's a tradition for millions of people and their familes and very often the tradition of the last backyard BBQ before the weather cools.

I have no doubt a match between you guys and Richmond could pull off the same atmosphere and showcase our game in the same way.

I like the idea of petitioning the AFL to get your hands on Good Friday. It's going to happen eventually and it would be great for the other 2 top 4 to get in on this.

Best of luck to you guys.

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If what you say is true then it needs to be rotated between teams, the exposure each year for Coll and Ess during a crucial membership drive part of the season is unfair for the teams not competing.

I didn't watch it.

Overhyped.

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Carlton and Collingwood games at the MCG were regularly over the 80000 mark during the early 90s without any hype other than playing on the traditional rivalry. You wont need any extra ANZAC day hype if you go back to promoting the rivalry despite our relative positions on the ladder.

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"needs" to be? Why does it "need" to be?

Good Friday is earlier and possibly even a more profitable time in the football calender to get those members in.

And who are you kidding you didn't watch it because it's overhyped? You didn't watch it because our style of play is much too quick for you to accurately log all those stats down.

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