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when we had under 19s and reserves, critisism like that to Walker didnt happen..

Bruce Doull did a solid apprenticeship in the reserves etc before he was picked for the seniors. He developed from the public gaze, but now we have the draft its different.

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Walkers development has been excellent.

He is team orientated, disciplined, and is improving in all areas as a good player should.

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He has come along way and is in our top 5 players....I'm waiting for the West Coast game....Judd vs Walker...Judd destroyed Brisbane today and is the benchmark for midfielders.....I think Andrew Walker can curtail him and silence the critics....his skills by foot have improved as has his decision making...he will be a very fine player for the club for many years and was the right choice....

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the kid just needs to work on his disposal (as does the rest of the team) but my god he excites me with his pace, ability to win contested footy and his accountability, which is something our midfield lacks

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Walker has likened himself to Judd. Murphy has chosen Cousins, although plays more like Kerr. There's the West Coast midfield in the making right there.

BTW was looking for Walker's age, but before I got there I noticed Prenda is getting some favourable exposure in the player profiles, almost 4 times more than any other player...

http://carltonfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=players&spg=browseall

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Kepler Bradley is a hack! he cant even kick the ball properly....

I'd still take him in a heartbeat if was on offer!

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Walker has likened himself to Judd. Murphy has chosen Cousins, although plays more like Kerr. There's the West Coast midfield in the making right there.

BTW was looking for Walker's age, but before I got there I noticed Prenda is getting some favourable exposure in the player profiles, almost 4 times more than any other player...

http://carltonfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=players&spg=browseall

Russell's picture was tiny yesterday! :lol:


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re: Bradley..CHB is a tough ask and there are not many good ones, I think he has done better than expected and isnt a bad player at all..and in fact has been better value than Sylvia...

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I reckon Walkers kicking has improved considerably this year. He excites me thinking of where he will be in 2 years time

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and how fitting it is that he's playing his best footy where he played it back in the U18's.....fair dinkum, this kid makes me hard....

i know that bigfooty is a shithole, but it just ticks me off when i see all these "walker is a hack thread". this kid is exciting and he is a bout to makem his mark on the competition...


Walker is a star on the rise and that is a credit to him.

Will he be remebered as Pagans only success story at Carlton... 8)


Disagree there = Pagan has held him back


Held back Fevola as well when Brittain let him go.


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jbee wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
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and how fitting it is that he's playing his best footy where he played it back in the U18's.....fair dinkum, this kid makes me hard....

i know that bigfooty is a shithole, but it just ticks me off when i see all these "walker is a hack thread". this kid is exciting and he is a bout to makem his mark on the competition...


Walker is a star on the rise and that is a credit to him.

Will he be remebered as Pagans only success story at Carlton... 8)


Disagree there = Pagan has held him back


Held back Fevola as well when Brittain let him go.


Stalking me still hey jbee - I still see you have nothing to add to the discussion again .

See jbee we will never know if Walker could have been playing the football he is playing now for all of last year because he was to busy chasing Akermanis and Mcleod around because our wonder coach wanted to teach him how to be a tagger and play accountable football when the entire games is now played as uncontested footballl. See poor old Denis thinks he is still in tihe 80-90 s and trying to play that way, Thats why we keep comming last.

But dont you worry about that jbee you just keep stalking me and looking to the holy god Pagan to lead you to the promise land and i will keep counting the losses and the destroyed football careers until this phony is sent packing.

And when that happens look out because I will come stalking you

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quite a longbow you're drawing there, Sydney Blue. Are you implying that if Walker was playing at this rate last season, that THIS season he'd be..... what..... our top midfielder? Playing the same role to the same effect? Is it not possible that learning to be accountable is helpful for a defensive role?

BTW, I'm not having a go... I'm not saying Pagan was definitely right to play him as a tagger, but your logic seems on the face of it to be a bit spurious.

I do agree that jbee is just a spammer who is about as insightful a contributor as a plank of wood

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Stalking me still hey jbee - I still see you have nothing to add to the discussion again .

See jbee we will never know if Walker could have been playing the football he is playing now for all of last year because he was to busy chasing Akermanis and Mcleod around because our wonder coach wanted to teach him how to be a tagger and play accountable football when the entire games is now played as uncontested footballl. See poor old Denis thinks he is still in tihe 80-90 s and trying to play that way, Thats why we keep comming last.

But dont you worry about that jbee you just keep stalking me and looking to the holy god Pagan to lead you to the promise land and i will keep counting the losses and the destroyed football careers until this phony is sent packing.

And when that happens look out because I will come stalking you

Why would we want to teach Walker to be accountable?

It would have been better to turn him into another Camporeale or Stevens!

Do you ever hit preview before submit to see how ridiculous some of your posts are?


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JuzzCarlton wrote:
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Stalking me still hey jbee - I still see you have nothing to add to the discussion again .

See jbee we will never know if Walker could have been playing the football he is playing now for all of last year because he was to busy chasing Akermanis and Mcleod around because our wonder coach wanted to teach him how to be a tagger and play accountable football when the entire games is now played as uncontested footballl. See poor old Denis thinks he is still in tihe 80-90 s and trying to play that way, Thats why we keep comming last.

But dont you worry about that jbee you just keep stalking me and looking to the holy god Pagan to lead you to the promise land and i will keep counting the losses and the destroyed football careers until this phony is sent packing.

And when that happens look out because I will come stalking you

Why would we want to teach Walker to be accountable?

It would have been better to turn him into another Camporeale or Stevens!

Do you ever hit preview before submit to see how ridiculous some of your posts are?



How is Dale Thomas going at the moment = Kid is allowed to play same with Deledio

And for that matter how is Stevens going now Campo has gone ???

You should think before you post

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Stalking me still hey jbee - I still see you have nothing to add to the discussion again .

See jbee we will never know if Walker could have been playing the football he is playing now for all of last year because he was to busy chasing Akermanis and Mcleod around because our wonder coach wanted to teach him how to be a tagger and play accountable football when the entire games is now played as uncontested footballl. See poor old Denis thinks he is still in tihe 80-90 s and trying to play that way, Thats why we keep comming last.

But dont you worry about that jbee you just keep stalking me and looking to the holy god Pagan to lead you to the promise land and i will keep counting the losses and the destroyed football careers until this phony is sent packing.

And when that happens look out because I will come stalking you

Why would we want to teach Walker to be accountable?

It would have been better to turn him into another Camporeale or Stevens!

Do you ever hit preview before submit to see how ridiculous some of your posts are?



How is Dale Thomas going at the moment = Kid is allowed to play same with Deledio

And for that matter how is Stevens going now Campo has gone ???

You should think before you post


Sydney, why would you respond to the post that has a go at you, rather than mine, which was much more polite and asked the same question?????? isn't that kind of inviting argument?

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Remember Walker had the best debut - statistics wise - in quite some time, and thereafter couldn't quite live up to the hype.

IMO Denis has done the right thing with him. Given him an excellent education in discipline, accountability and commitment. Slot him back in the midfield with those new lessons and his original flair and talent, he will be an uber-midfielder.

The question is - will Denis be brave enough to release him from the backline, where he is one of our shining lights, for more attacking purposes.


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Stalking me still hey jbee - I still see you have nothing to add to the discussion again .

See jbee we will never know if Walker could have been playing the football he is playing now for all of last year because he was to busy chasing Akermanis and Mcleod around because our wonder coach wanted to teach him how to be a tagger and play accountable football when the entire games is now played as uncontested footballl. See poor old Denis thinks he is still in tihe 80-90 s and trying to play that way, Thats why we keep comming last.

But dont you worry about that jbee you just keep stalking me and looking to the holy god Pagan to lead you to the promise land and i will keep counting the losses and the destroyed football careers until this phony is sent packing.

And when that happens look out because I will come stalking you

Why would we want to teach Walker to be accountable?

It would have been better to turn him into another Camporeale or Stevens!

Do you ever hit preview before submit to see how ridiculous some of your posts are?



How is Dale Thomas going at the moment = Kid is allowed to play same with Deledio

And for that matter how is Stevens going now Campo has gone ???

You should think before you post


Sydney, why would you respond to the post that has a go at you, rather than mine, which was much more polite and asked the same question?????? isn't that kind of inviting argument?


I didn't see you post Ty - but to answer your question we dont know what walker could have or will be capable of yet as Pagan has had him chasing backsides around for nearly 2 years . He is showing now that he is quite a capable attacking defender but he could also be quite a capable midfielder as well . At the moment our midfield needs grunt which walker is showing he has because he is now aloud to show it .

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Sydney, I see your point but another factor here is time/age and sheer experience in senior footy. You couldn't assert with any certainty that 2006 Walker was a possibility in 2005, because there are many more variables at play that Pagan's selection policy for him couldn't have affected (ie, age, strength, match experience)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not exactly a Pagan lover myself, but I don't believe your assertion factors in a lot of the variables at play.

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[quote="Sydney Blue"]
How is Dale Thomas going at the moment = Kid is allowed to play same with Deledio

He is going as good as Marc Murphy is at the moment and I would expect him to be as good as Murphy :P

How do you think Mick Malthouse treated Josh Fraser in his first year of footy? Can you remember? Has Josh missed a fair bit of fotty because of his first year of footy?

Is Mick Malthouse a better coach than he was last year? Why are Collingwood better this year? Is it the coach?


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Sydney Blue wrote:
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Stalking me still hey jbee - I still see you have nothing to add to the discussion again .

See jbee we will never know if Walker could have been playing the football he is playing now for all of last year because he was to busy chasing Akermanis and Mcleod around because our wonder coach wanted to teach him how to be a tagger and play accountable football when the entire games is now played as uncontested footballl. See poor old Denis thinks he is still in tihe 80-90 s and trying to play that way, Thats why we keep comming last.

But dont you worry about that jbee you just keep stalking me and looking to the holy god Pagan to lead you to the promise land and i will keep counting the losses and the destroyed football careers until this phony is sent packing.

And when that happens look out because I will come stalking you

Why would we want to teach Walker to be accountable?

It would have been better to turn him into another Camporeale or Stevens!

Do you ever hit preview before submit to see how ridiculous some of your posts are?

How is Dale Thomas going at the moment = Kid is allowed to play same with Deledio

And for that matter how is Stevens going now Campo has gone ???

You should think before you post

Is Andrew Walker playing alongside leaders such as Clement, Buckley, Burns, Licuria, etc. who pull their weight?

Or was he copping treatment like this last year?

The look on his face is practically crying out for help after he was tackled by three Tigers. A bit like Walker standing up to two Crows players last year without any support from his well paid teammates. :evil:

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Has Walker been abused by a senior teammate who refused to pass him the ball last year?

Mentioning Camporeale as a mark against Denis when his leaving is a positive for the club's culture! :roll:

Walker probably spends half his gametime covering for his teammate's opponents!


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