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Its only May Day and we are talking priority picks. :cry:

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Blue Bird wrote:
Its only May Day and we are talking priority picks. :cry:


BB,

The way we played Friday night I don't think we will win another game for the year. Our up coming draw looks pretty tough as well


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Blue Bird wrote:
Its only May Day and we are talking priority picks. :cry:


BB,

The way we played Friday night I don't think we will win another game for the year. Our up coming draw looks pretty tough as well


gee thats optimism for you! christ with a bit of luck we could have just of easily been 4-1 not 1-4.

you're right that we have probably gone through the easier part of our draw but who knows.

we have only played to a best once this season and netted us our win. two other games we came back after slow starts. we should have been a lot closer in the dawks game but for bad kicking and on friday night was probably our worst performance of the season and we still only lost by a couple of kicks.

we will win games. 4-6 wins is still realistic


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I think the rule is if you manage less than 32 points over two seasons, then you are entitled to a PP before the 1st round.

Therefore, if we manage 3 wins for the year (not inconceivable the way we're travelling!), then from my interpretations of the rule we would qualify for a PP before the commencement of the 1st round - i.e. picks 1 & 2.

So it would equate to:
2005 - 18 points
2006 - 12 points
Total premiership points for 2 year period - 30 points.

30 points qualifies a club for a priority pick before the commencement of the 1st round (pick 1). We're in with a chance folks!!! :P :oops:

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Rhys26 wrote:
Blue Bird wrote:
Its only May Day and we are talking priority picks. :cry:


BB,

The way we played Friday night I don't think we will win another game for the year. Our up coming draw looks pretty tough as well


I think we can play better than that. We had a number of players out of condition or form who can do better.


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marciblue wrote:
I think the rule is if you manage less than 32 points over two seasons, then you are entitled to a PP before the 1st round.

Therefore, if we manage 3 wins for the year (not inconceivable the way we're travelling!), then from my interpretations of the rule we would qualify for a PP before the commencement of the 1st round - i.e. picks 1 & 2.

So it would equate to:
2005 - 18 points
2006 - 12 points
Total premiership points for 2 year period - 30 points.

30 points qualifies a club for a priority pick before the commencement of the 1st round (pick 1). We're in with a chance folks!!! :P :oops:


i thought it was 16 or less each year, and 18 last year counts us out of that, can someone confirm?


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Not sure that there is anyone more optimistic /patient than me on the site but must admit havent been as depressed coming away the football in a long time as Friday night
Couldnt fault the commitment but it was like watching a train wreck and apart from Murphys goal walkers goal and a few individual efforts really soul destroying
Richmond were appalling - dominated 3 quarters and we only lost by 9 points - how bad were we then to get beaten by them - 3 grab marks - kicking into the man on the mark - no structure at all on the Richmond kick outs - murdered out of the middle - kicking 3 goals 11 in second half - after 2 goals 7 in third quarter the week before - hitting the Richmond player on the chest who was in the middle of two leading Carlton players- players bumping instead of tackling
Guys like hyde and pettifer not being able to be closed down
Sure we with luck could be 1-4 and good on you for your optimism and keep posting but Friday night was truly terrible


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marciblue wrote:
I think the rule is if you manage less than 32 points over two seasons, then you are entitled to a PP before the 1st round.

Therefore, if we manage 3 wins for the year (not inconceivable the way we're travelling!), then from my interpretations of the rule we would qualify for a PP before the commencement of the 1st round - i.e. picks 1 & 2.

So it would equate to:
2005 - 18 points
2006 - 12 points
Total premiership points for 2 year period - 30 points.

30 points qualifies a club for a priority pick before the commencement of the 1st round (pick 1). We're in with a chance folks!!! :P :oops:


Not haveing a go at you in particular Marci but just 4-5 posts above yours I posted a link to the AFL website where the rule is clearly explained. So we don't need to speculate about what the rule is.



BB, discussing the rule doesnt mean that Carlton is more or less likely to qualify. Its just an internet discussion of the rule.

Sorry to ruin your May Day celebrations.
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buzzaaaah wrote:

BB, discussing the rule doesnt mean that Carlton is more or less likely to qualify. Its just an internet discussion of the rule.

Sorry to ruin your May Day celebrations.
:wink:


Yes I know but you know the "t" word is not far away.

Now back to my chardonnay and lentil burger comrade.

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Ok, maybe my claims are wrong. I am pretty sure I read from the rule book itself that the qualification criteria is 32 points, not 2 years of 16 points. This is very important because if it is the former, then a club can qualify under different win/loss combinations over 2 years, as I highlight in my post. However, if it is the latter, then we will only qualify if we win 4 wins or less.

I did a quick search on the AFL website but have not been able to find the rules link. Does anyone have this handy?

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marciblue wrote:
I did a quick search on the AFL website but have not been able to find the rules link. Does anyone have this handy?


Much easier not to have anything in writing then you can position the goalposts anyway you like.


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Exerpt from the link provided by buzzaaaah



Change to priority picks
6:45:33 PM Thu 17 November, 2005
Jason Phelan
Sportal for afl.com.au
In an effort to reduce speculation over clubs tanking for priority draft picks, the AFL has modified its special assistance rule.

Starting next season if a club finishes with 16 points (four wins) or less in one year, a selection prior to round two of the national draft will be allocated and only after two or more years of 16 points or less will a selection prior to round one be granted.

This would see a club that finished on the bottom of the ladder with 16 points or less given picks 1, 17 and 18 in the first year and if it qualified for special assistance again the following year, picks 1, 2 and 18. The club would receive the first pick in the pre-season draft in both instances.


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I understand that Mrs.Caz, but that comes from an article reporting on the rule changes. I am pretty sure the official rule itself states that a total no greater than 32 points must be acquired to entitle a club to select prior to round 1.

If it states 32 points, then it is open for qualification under any combination of win/loss results. However, if it actually states that it is no more that 16 points for both years then it is a different story.

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I guess that I read the statement "only after two or more years of 16 points or less will a selection prior to round one be granted." and took it to mean each year must only be 16 points or less. I don't see how it can be a total of 32 points, if it states "each year". ??


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Dont tease us Marciblue, where'd you hear that? :-D If theres any truth to this we need to find out.


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Sorry for teasing. I am pretty sure that I read from an excerpt from the AFL rules that it stated 32 points in the rule. Surfing on the AFL website doesn't help. Cant find a damn thing! :evil:

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Blue Bird wrote:
buzzaaaah wrote:

BB, discussing the rule doesnt mean that Carlton is more or less likely to qualify. Its just an internet discussion of the rule.

Sorry to ruin your May Day celebrations.
:wink:


Yes I know but you know the "t" word is not far away.

Now back to my chardonnay and lentil burger comrade.


You'll be surprised to know I celebrate today also.





It my sons first birthday.

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buzzaaaah wrote:
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buzzaaaah wrote:

BB, discussing the rule doesnt mean that Carlton is more or less likely to qualify. Its just an internet discussion of the rule.

Sorry to ruin your May Day celebrations.
:wink:


Yes I know but you know the "t" word is not far away.

Now back to my chardonnay and lentil burger comrade.


You'll be surprised to know I celebrate today also.





It my sons first birthday.


Is his name Che? :wink:

Happy birthday mini Buzz. :-D

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So Mrs Caz... do we get a PP with 5 wins, or 5.5??????

And what of this NRS I've heard so much about??

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