Mjonc, considering Bryan at no point has been effective enough in the ruck to play first ruck and made his impression with his kick, how the hell do you propose he ruck an entire game with no backup in the 22?

Fitzy wouldnt be a good president because he doesnt want to do it.

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I think the idea of the thread is to suggest what we wish would happen.

Personally speaking I'm well aware of what Mike's feelings are. But don't make it sound like he doesn't love this club. Loves it very much. I feel there will be a time when he will be ready to take the presidency if need be.

SO............

Mjonc wants Bryan in the ruck............but you have iss-ewwes
with that Jim.............then Mr Syn mentions something
about Fitzy.........and you tell him the idea of this
thread is what we wish would happen...........!

but isn't that what Mjonc "wishes" would happen.........?

i'm not being "hostile".............you just irritate the
%$#@ out of me............!


kindest ergards tommi

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If you had NTBlue as Regional Recruitment Officer, we would have A Davey kicking goals for us now.

And whoever suggested Hughesie for Pres.... at least we could have a bit of a laugh at our misfortunes.

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jimmae, I read alot of good reports about Flint and Bower future with the Blues.

So you obviously rate Flint. From all accounts he is steady (poise), no nonsense backman with a bit of pace and good disposal. He does sound promising. It seems that you think he's ahead of Bower and Jackson. Is that right?

How about Trevor Marmalade becomes our (decoy) frontman President if Kangas relocate, whilst Fitzpatrick pulls the strings. That would decrease the workload for Fitxy to do the things that have to be done, whilst Trevor entertains and spruiks.

Do you think Fitzpatrick is not interested in the position as President because of he is time poor?

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Whats all the fuss about Fitzy being president anyway?

Any set-up that doesn't have Denis Pagan as coach. We pay this bloke a fortune and have gone from last to last in his time. And we're likely to stay there while he's here. I'd like to think we now have a side that is better than that.

President: saddam hussein
Coach: Joh Bjelke Peterson
Chairman of selectors: John Elliot, Jacko, Sam Newman.

Has prior footy club experience, has prior experience on company boards, has built a multi-million dollar company from the ground up and sold the majority share (to Westpac), highly-motivated and loves the club.

bondiblue is sort of on the right track as seen below with him being time poor, but only because he wants to maintain his earning capacity... has two kids around my age at uni still, both doing double degrees and both boarding


I too have read a lot of glowing words about Flint bondi, and when I have caught a bit of the bullants games I have been extremely impressed, of course I'm speaking as someone who is not from the industry here. I believe he is ahead of Jackson and Bower, because while he may not neccessarily have the tank of Jackson or the athleticism of Bower, he is incredibly composed, and it shows in everything he does.

He must have slipped so far because of the way he was forced to play when lining up at FB in the TAC. He's reportedly 191 cms now, drafted at 188, so he's a pretty good size, very well paced, not explosive but he just seems to have all the tools he needs, absolute joy to watch. Has been tried at ruck rover in the Bullants reserves practise matches and accumulated a fair bit of the ball there I believe so he's definitely not a one trick pony either. Has played on tall and small opponents in the VFL successfully.

As for Trev being president...

I actually have a question for Cazz on this one if he's prepared to respond, if a player could be elevated as a nominated rookie right now (and they can't for anyone who forgot), would it be exercised and who it would it be exercised on?

For those who want to see here's Flint's stats from last year's TAC, rarely conceeds a free.

Oh and tommi, I wasn't questioning Synbad, because I know better in regards to Fitzy, I was simply guiding him along there.

But the mjonc thing was more about Bryan as the sole ruck, rather than Bryan in the team. Sometimes people miss things, I know I do.

Just constructive critcisms...

Deliberate selection of Bryan the only ruckman.

Why? As per my wishfull gameplan Bryan adds the mobility and disposal to hurt the opposition playing a fast direct style.

He may not have the stamina right now, but this will develop with regular game time at the top level.

Obviously Kouta and Whitnall can help around the ground limiting the zone that Bryan has to cover, remember Bryan's ability to kick 60-70 metres with accuracy is a lethal weapon off half back or from the centre square.

It is but he appears to lack the effort required for AFL football at the moment, he certainly is the most promising back up tall we have along with Setanta (bar Josh Kennedy, if you consider him a backup) but he's not delivering with the gusto he needs to.

He just stands around and expects the ball because he can kick. Doesn't play back because he doesn't account for a man.

Isn't that effective in the ruck, so where's the advantage?

Probably shouldn't be talking about this given the thread topic, so if you want to continue, chuck up another thread and we can thrash this out.

You sound like a livewire thinker.
If he is your dream man for the presidential job at Carlton... how come he doesnt want a bar of it?
He has been approached over a few years and each time has taken backwards steps.
So considering he doesnt want it how can he be the right man for the job???

When you get abit older(and wiser) youll realise the only people that you want to do a job are those with fire in their bellies.. not the ones that hide from a challenge to do something else...

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Synners, I said he doesn't want it now.

Would you like me to call his kids and say "Some guy on this forum says your dad should be the President of Carlton."

They'll say "fantastic, I know he's wanted to do it one day", then I'll say "of course every time you go on a holiday, every minute you spend boarding and in lectures, and every time you go down to the holiday house, you're eating into his retirement fund because he'll be earning fresh air for his time."

Then they'll say "oh, maybe he should hold off on that, we're not able to support ourselves just yet."

So what do you want the man, with a family of four, and a cat, to do Synners? He's contributing to football in a part-time capacity. He backed CarltonOne. He's all for being the front man but he has bigger things to be concerned about, and you call him cowardly and selfish.

You're lucky you're not saying this to my face.

Why am i lucky im not saying it to your face????


50s is the right age for Fitzy... hes done it all in the business world.. if he doesnt do it NOW he will never do it...
He can step in and do the job.. hed be a shoe in.. but he has other priorities... like getting paid to meet over a siren on behalf of the AFL.
He is selfish.... it was time he did something for the club.

Hes not the right man for the job because there is no fire in his belly to make a meaninful contribution to this footy club when we need it most.
We brought him in from WA... he left to England to become a Rhode scholar.. we encouraged it. He was away for a couple of year and then took a while to get into the swing of things again... ended up being a premiership captain...

So the club has helped him... he doesnt need the money ...

But to take on Carlton is a job for someone who has balls...

Fitzy loves the cushie stuff at AFL house instead...


and jimmae???
as far as Fitzy not wanting the job now.... then i dont want him ever!!!

We need someone now because were shit... and if he cant do it now because its a bit messy for him and his schedule.. is he serious that he should come in up the track when things improve somewhat???

Too many downhill skiiers around this club i reckon!!!

For you to defend that rubbish just goes to show how you view life.

Its like an orphan... who grows up to become a self made millionaire.
He doesnt need anyone giving him $5000 when hes a millionaire .. hes interested in who can help him in his early years....

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I'm sure Synbad is hiding in his wardrobe as we speak!

Most club presidents have interests outside of football.
Nobody would be expecting Fitzy to drop everything and become a full time volunteer.

Obviously Fitzy chooses to put his efforts elsewhere.
It's a lifestyle choice.
I'm happy with that, he is not obligated to return to Carlton.

But lets not pretend that he avoids the opportunity to keep his family out of the soup kitchens.

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Have to agree about Fitzy..he would have done it before if he was interested....at this stage its probably a bit to much hands on for him and you need someone who is prepared to get their hands dirty and do some shovel work to dig us out of the hole and you need some real passion to be doing it for little or no reward apart from seeing the club do well..and besides I think he is well and truly up himself and thinks he is a better than running a F$%ked footy club to be blunt....and would rather have a Charddy with Ron Evans and co down at the AFL....

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while i disagree with how Synbad says it i agree. Fitzy is more our great white hope than any realistic chance - though this may change someday - I want someone desperate to take this club, strong, visionary, handsome and media savvy.... No I said handsome tyrant

Unfortunately I cannot take it on because it really would send my family to the soup kitchen - or me to the doghouse

But Fitzy could if he wanted to, doesn't and that's fine, i still remember him as a great captain of this club.

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