Why do we persist with it when it is so blatantly obvious that it does not work, and only works against us

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

"I hear what you're saying son, but we play better as a team when we have numbers behind the ball."

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"A good composer does not initiate. He steals."

- Igor Stravinsky

"wiggins kicks into the pocket, collingwood 2 on 1 again"

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

30 possessions to 71 in the last qtr

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

this defensive approach is killing us, the pies have run riot in the second half why because we do worried about getting the numbers back

Pagan concedes defeat before the game gets underway.

ABC discussing the negative approach and how Pagan's hard line approach is not good for a young group

This year seems all about minimizing the beltings, he's certainly doing a good job of that

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

The flood works but the players need spells on the bench .

Was Bentick injured - didn't hear him after half time


Use your bench Denis if you are going to play the flood

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Pagan is shit and he must go......I am sick and tired of this shit game plan of his.....Lets all get together and get rid of him.....He is well and truly passed it...We continue with this shit plan of his and we will lose players by the numbers and no one will want to play for us....It's time to go Pagan....

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Blueboy forever

What's your solution?

Who is there really to replace him?

Seriously.....Ayres? O'Donnell? Mark Harvey?

And are you going to pay out the contract?

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Can you cut your number of posts down or change that avator - my desk keep s lifting up

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Well lets just enjoy another 3 wooden spoons in our cabinet...

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Blueboy forever

Cost us an extra couple of hundred extra to elevate Barry Mitchell. Pagan can be paid out over the 3 years as per his contract. Not that much difference. Has to be better than this. Prefer us broke and winning, the rest would then sort itself out. Surely the time has come.

Don't flatter yourself

Surely seeing my avatar on such a dark day as today makes being here worthwhile?

PS: I'm coming around to your way of thinking......

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

That not Mrs K by any chance is it

By the way - Welcome to the Dark side .

Christ its disappointing I keep thinking every week that this is going to be the game that turns things around but it just doesn't seem to be happening

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Sarah Chalke from Scrubs.

I just don't get it.

So frustrating.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Broke = nothing. The club dies. Has that not registered in between your ears yet?

If the coach actually needed to go (and he doesn't) then it would be a figure closer to a million, and the club would be in some serious strife.

Why not?

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"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

I would prefer Pagan stay, but be directed to let the kids play, and play for FUN.

Just give them their heads a bit.

How could it hurt any more?

There's no way we can pay out his contract.

Unless someone in the "Carlton extended family" knows someone who will "Make Denis an offer he can't refuse" if. you. know. what. i. mean.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

you cant just let the kids go and and have fun, accountability was disgraceful today and thats what happens when the younger players are set free to play a flamboyant style of footy