Anyone hear it? What did he have to say?

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Anyone who has bigpond can listen to it on afl.com (I don't).

I heard a bit of it. Said he was disappointed we let all our hard work slip away in the second half. We need to go back to doing the basics well.

Wow! Such insight from the master coach.

same shit every week

- we butchered the ball
- got to go back to basics

blah blah @#$%&! blah

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"we butchered the ball" - thanks DP - what an insight!!!! I wonder who is responsible for that???? DP will get TE to yell at the players during training just like he has done for his whole coaching career - that will solve everything!!

Denis mentioned:

-COuldn't put his finger on why the contrasting halves.
-Players will take ownership in post mortem and next weeks preparation.
-Could feel in the first 5 minutes of the 3rd Qtr in the box that the game was slipping
-Mentioned all the hard work done in preseason, and last year came undone today
-Players will be trained on the poorer elements of today's game
-Felt the scarring of the last few years losses by players as non-contributing factors in the loss (he was asked a question in relation to this)

Didn't really have anything positive to say, really

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

I have to agree.

it's wearing a bit thin.

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Wangers isn't it an amazing concept - "players will be trained on the poorer elements of today's game" wow after only 25 years of coaching DP is discovering that you need to actually include skills in your training - rather than run like buggery while your appendix TE yells at the players!!!

Quite frankly, who? Are we expecting a bunch of shell-shocked, inexperienced kids to lead the discussion and reformation?

I dearly hope our supposed leaders in the playing group are showing more assertiveness off-field than they have on it of late. Oh for a leader who commands respect...

Let's see you stroll into a press conference and clinically identify how Collingwood exposed us for all to see... what exactly do you want the bloke to do?

The man is asking for players to take more responsiblity for what they do on the field. I don't see a thing wrong with that.

Collingwood didn't need to expose us. We exposed ourselves!

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time for pagan to come under the media microscope ...

not the club (we know they enjoy that) ... not the players (their turn will come if they continue being so insipid ... )

but PAGAN

just some points they can kick off with:

negative/reactive game plan & match-ups.
wasting picks on non-contributors such as chambers and longmuir (unless it was to get bullants into finals ... ).
lack of a development plan, or if there is one it certainly has eluded the club's supporters.
having the most poorly drilled team in the comp with seemingly no set plays or effective stoppage set-ups (total deriliction of duty and goes beyond "not having the cattle"). when the side finally made it into 2006 and managed to get the ball to the members wing from a kickout before collingwood could even begin to set up a zone, it seemed our guys were just as shocked cos ball carrier had no-one to kick to ...

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I think its high time we made Mark Murphy our player-coach !

Agree.



Disagree there. Chambers and Longmuir were brought into the club when we had no real alternative.



I think it's more the latter. Denis actually has a good record of developing younger players into great players.

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i find it hard to reconcile development working within such an environment of negativity and reactivity.

he talks a lot about being positive during the week, then come match day he becomes negative and reactive. he remains possibly the only coach left using the bench as a "sin bin".

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... an eagle flew out of the night. he was something to observe, came in close i heard a voice, bending stretching every nerve, had to listen had no choice ...

Fair point. I couldn't believe we started the match negative. The only thing I can think is that he's using method of instilling discipline into the players which they haven't caught onto yet. I'm hoping that when they do, we'll take off in a big way. Just doesn't look like it will happen this year.....

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When you accept the fact that he is still teaching a vast majority of our players, you will understand his methods a bit more.

When we come to the fore I am sure he will use the bench a fair bit more, but that may not be this year.

Chambers and Longmuir were brought to the club when we were in the draft we could have drafted kids . We had a choice

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For all the talk about us being negative, I noticed that Collingwood were flooding just as hard in the first 1/2. The only real difference is that we do a full team flood while they were leaving one or two of their forwards inside 50.

After 1/2 time they stopped because we were kicking the ball to them and they didn't need to flood any more.

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OK, thanks for the correction.

As an aside, jimmae and I are in agreeance.

I'm scared.

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