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How do you think Whitnall went yesterday Synbad


how did he go against Croad?

Whitnall is good in the right contexts... but isn't versatile enough as a permanent option.

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Some of you guys are pretty harsh and rigid with your view on things .So we cant advance with Whitnall.Well what do Fosdike,Dempster and Roberts -Thomson got in common.They played in the 2005 premiership and Lance is twice as good as them.Give the guy some flower credit.


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Some of you guys are pretty harsh and rigid with your view on things .So we cant advance with Whitnall.Well what do Fosdike,Dempster and Roberts -Thomson got in common.They played in the 2005 premiership and Lance is twice as good as them.Give the guy some F@%&#! credit.


but those guys are all really quick and versatile

Of course Whitnall has a 100 times more ability, but its not 1986 and Whitnall will get exposed by certain opposition

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How do you think Whitnall went yesterday Synbad


keogh whitnall was very good... he did a great job to up his currency.. nothing more.
how do you think he went???..

Champion???




Its interesting to see the straws a man attempts to clutch to when they feel theyre drowning.....

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Quicker obviously but versatile I disagree.
Havent seen Fosdike play in the key posts lately.
couldn't see Lewis cutting the mustard up forward.Just a footballer.
Dempster havent seen him play in many possies


Are you suprised how well he is playing.The guy is near the top of every media award and his effort to turn his game around against the Hawks and to give us a chance in that game unfortunately is missed by some.

He is our best player at the moment by the length of Lygon Street yet some still think we are better off without him.You still can have slow blokes in your team so long as there are only 1 or 2 and they are good.Lance is very good.Kirk isnt exactly known for his Stawell gift efforts.


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He is not a champion but it is easy to argue with extreme comments.The hardest thing to do in footy is to star when the rest of the team is going to shit.He is mentally tough and if he keeps up with this form over the next 3 years would you call him a champion then.


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keogh wrote:
Quicker obviously but versatile I disagree.
Havent seen Fosdike play in the key posts lately.
couldn't see Lewis cutting the mustard up forward.Just a footballer.
Dempster havent seen him play in many possies


Are you suprised how well he is playing.The guy is near the top of every media award and his effort to turn his game around against the Hawks and to give us a chance in that game unfortunately is missed by some.

He is our best player at the moment by the length of Lygon Street yet some still think we are better off without him.You still can have slow blokes in your team so long as there are only 1 or 2 and they are good.Lance is very good.Kirk isnt exactly known for his Stawell gift efforts.


I dont think you understand a plan.

You dont get judged on what you do today.today.. you get judged in 5 years on what you did today.

Am i surprised???.. i think hes doing pretty well.. but i wouldnt have him in our forward line... because that buggers up the forward line we will have for the next decade.

And in the backline he does ok with Rocca who had 2 ankle recos last year and fell on one of them pretty awkwardly 3 mins into the game.. Rocca still kicked 3 on him???....
The week before Richo killed him.
The week before that Croad killed him..

If i were you id run off to the TAB and out 100 bux on him to win the brownlow... hes a shoo in...
Go on... youd get great odds now.. leave it anylonger and everyone will be in on the secret...

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keogh wrote:
If you had 4 legs you would have blinkers on.


gee, there's a zinger.... I don't know how Synbad will ever recover from that one :garthp:

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If you had 4 legs you would have blinkers on.



and if you ever had sex the word 'premature' would be used alot at you..

The amount of times people in here have said "and what do you have to say now Synbad?"
"Were back Synbad.. we dont need picks"
"Lances game against the Swans was the best ever synbad" (last year)


Like he is ok.... but yeah 'straw clutching'.. and 'premature' sums you up...

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I personally hope Lance carves up opposition in defence this season, and has a great year.... so someone will want him for a trade. A first round pick for Lance would be a great result for us.....

.... though its about as likely as it was last year... and the year before that...... best bet is that the Bulldogs finish fourth or fifth, Grant retires, Rodney Eade has a brain freeze and decides they don't need any more picks, because he doesn't want to be "too greedy".....

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There you are again going to exteme once again.Read back at the post where I stated that Lance isnt a champion.I aint being premature man.What I am stating is give the guy the credit he deserves.He was good last year.Your all about leadership.Whitnall is the only one giving a shit(except for Fevola) amongst the senior players.He is the only one who did this last year.That isnt being premature.
One game doesnt make a season,but I am sure the game plan you are thinking could incorporate Whitnall's footy smarts so long as the right cattle was around him.


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Keogh.. credit to L:ance for doing everything he was meant to be doing over four years.
Unfortunately.. if the club had any balls he would be traded end of season.

He wont be there for a flag and we need currency.

I dont have anything against Lance except for the fact that he along with others at the club have made it difficult for the kids and supporters.

The penny has dropped.. thats fantastic... hopefully he is worth a reasonable pick for us to continue adding around Walker and Murphy and Simmo and Carazzo.. and Waite .. and Fish for a team that can challenge for a flag.

People think Lance is now a gun.... (not daying you keogh)... do i need to remind you..its round 6... collingwood is ontop of the ladder and there was this game played on the weekend called 'Dreamtime'....

Now if only the penny would drop for Kouta too....

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at this rate, any chance for Lance to beocme an AA CHB?


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and what do you have to say now Synbad?

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What is with the trading the only players we have for draft picks ffs

Whits and Stevo are the only leaders this club has got and unlike others i dont see to much coming through to inspire me in the short term and we want to trade them for Draft picks

Picture the senario some are painting
French - close to retirement not a leader from what i have seen .. yes trains well on the track dosnt help on game day
lappin - lucky if he has the 2 years he is contracted for a great individual player on his day no leader.
Kouta - going through motions should not be captain IMO and wont be there once his contract is up

Then there are Whits and Stevo only players showing leadership and at moment are pretty much playing a lone hand ... and we want to trade them for Draft picks

What We do then make Fev captain..... he will be the most senior player we have if a couple of people have there way what a joke ..... Great to get young talent but these kids need guidance and help and yep the coach is there t do that and maybe we question the coaching department but all these kids need players to look up to on the field and to direct them / encourage them and push them.

As i have put in another post ... Players like Thornton / Waite / Bentick ? Carrots ? Simo ? ect these guys still need to be develpoed none of them are ready yet they still need guidance from more experienced player..

Best prosepct we have is Murphy in 3 years time.

Great to have lots of talent but gong to mean nothing if we havnt got any senior players to help em.


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What is with the trading the only players we have for draft picks ffs

Whits and Stevo are the only leaders this club has got and unlike others i dont see to much coming through to inspire me in the short term and we want to trade them for Draft picks

Picture the senario some are painting
French - close to retirement not a leader from what i have seen .. yes trains well on the track dosnt help on game day
lappin - lucky if he has the 2 years he is contracted for a great individual player on his day no leader.
Kouta - going through motions should not be captain IMO and wont be there once his contract is up

Then there are Whits and Stevo only players showing leadership and at moment are pretty much playing a lone hand ... and we want to trade them for Draft picks

What We do then make Fev captain..... he will be the most senior player we have if a couple of people have there way what a joke ..... Great to get young talent but these kids need guidance and help and yep the coach is there t do that and maybe we question the coaching department but all these kids need players to look up to on the field and to direct them / encourage them and push them.

As i have put in another post ... Players like Thornton / Waite / Bentick ? Carrots ? Simo ? ect these guys still need to be develpoed none of them are ready yet they still need guidance from more experienced player..

Best prosepct we have is Murphy in 3 years time.

Great to have lots of talent but gong to mean nothing if we havnt got any senior players to help em.



But the problem is we should be planning to win a flag... so we need to bolster up our stocks as best we can.
If it means we can get something for Lance we shouldnt be shy.
Guidance???

they have had no guidance from anyone so far.. they have had to do it all on their own....nothing will change.

In fact these kids have been taking the load of the senior playes back not the other way around.

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Its not a matter of being shy Synbad we have keep getting kids in build up the list but its useless getting all these kids if we have no experience around the team to assist and develope them.

We dont have the experience as it is and PLayers like J.R / Kenedy / Carlos just 3 players this year have all looked lost at the moment. In Fact after half time the whole team looked lost with only Whitnall continuing to try and rally the team before the last quarter complete collapse.

4 Years ago we had leaders we had players who could help out the younger kids unfortunatley they have all retired
The List of names like - Braddly / SOS / Ratten / HIckmont / Mackay
We had some players who could assume responsibility in Campo who was to selfish and is continuing that trend at the Bombers.

Whitnall last year was at the cross Roads but i did suggest S
ynbad that Campo was a underlying influence in many players he has gone and Whitnall has been shining and if he has changed around then he should be complimented for turning himself around.

You have to strike a balance and we cant load the team with a team of kids without some experience and at present we have very little and would be silly to strip that completely away

You want to emulate the Hawks as an example. Lots of kids smart drafting but they have retained a core of senior players
Core Experience: Crawf / Everet / Sam Mitch / Hodge (Natural Leader) / Joel Smith / Vandenberg

The Hawks lack the middle tier similar to the blues but have far more input from there Senior players.

In comparison we have Stevo and Whits remove those and we will have no experience on the field.

Agree Question the coach or some of the assistants ... raise questions as to why we have been put in this situation. Blame AFL for the severity of the penalties but also look to the future that we cant have a team of kids with no onfield leadership... In some respects we need to find from within or outside to add not remove what little we have left.


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Time to play for draft picks.... I think it is time for Pagan to play the draft picks for extended time, blood these young guys & in doing so you will end up with decent draft picks, as well as getting 15 -20 games a year into the 18, 19, 20 year olds.
As for trading Whitnall, I don't think what you would get for him would be worth doing the trade. What would Lance get, I reckon a 2nd round draft pick. Clubs are going to be very stingy when it comes to trades this year with the so called 'superdraft'.

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