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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 12:04 pm 
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Ponkstar wrote:
Do you think we MIGHT be abl to get two of Lance at some stage?

Pagan seems to be hoping that we might.....

Maybe he has some money invested in human cloning.

Maybe he's secretly had a Lance clone growing in a back room at Princes Park.

Or a whole team of Lance's!

Wouldn't Synners looove that? :lol:

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BTW, we won the clearances on the day.


Is that clearances to advantage though? Seemed to me a lot were just roosts forward to nobody in particular.


That's because there was nobody in particular there. :wink:

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Wojee wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
BTW, we won the clearances on the day.


Is that clearances to advantage though? Seemed to me a lot were just roosts forward to nobody in particular.


We were getting the ball to half forward but it then rebounded back.


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Dukes wrote:
I thought we smashed Collingwood out of the middle for the first 3 qtrs and the stats above seem to back this up. We were turning it over and letting them come back at us and score. Definitely not a clearance issue ... more of a midfield turnover problem in our attacking half.

In the final qtr once we went with Wiggins and a few different options in the middle, collingwood took it out of there at will.


Walker was in there toward the end of the game. I think our main midfielders were too tired after having spent the whole game on the ground, while Collingwood's were a lot fresher.


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If we won the clearences, and clearly we did in the first half, suggests we have the ability to win the ball. Sure we had too many clangers around the ground, but a lot of them were due to having no one next to go to.

If the disposal dropped off in the second half by our midfleders, the most obvious reason would be fatigue. Fatigue does contribute more to clangers that more than our skill level IMO. That's not to say we haven't got any roon for improvement with skills.

Structure and Fatigue must be addressed. I hate it when we get the hard ball, do all the hard things, get the ball in our control, only to look up and start singing "we're on a road to nowhere". Sorry but I can't blame the players for that.

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It's the lack of depth and quality in our rotation that's causing us problem's the standard if any drops dramatically from A-class to C-class.
That's where the team struggles as we have to keep our best players on for a maximum time in order to be competitive, eg. Stevens on for the entire game on the ball.

Players are not SUPERMEN they need quality players as a back-up especially the way the game is played today with possession football it takes it's toll on the players. They need a break so they can revitilise themselves thats where the draft penalties of the past have hurt the team so much of getting such quality at the club.

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Carlton 'Old Skool' Blues wrote:
It's the lack of depth and quality in our rotation that's causing us problem's the standard if any drops dramatically from A-class to C-class.
That's where the team struggles as we have to keep our best players on for a maximum time in order to be competitive, eg. Stevens on for the entire game on the ball.


How do you develop midfielders if you dont play them there?
C graders dont magically become B graders without time, experience and instruction.
Stevens and Kouta should be rested and players given opportunities.

We cant wait for the draft to magically solve our problems.

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Steve Benson wrote:
Lance should play up forward. You should always play your best players in their best position.


In an ideal world I'd agree Steve, but Lance has been one of our best players in defence as well as forward. The fact that he is versatile is at once a blessing and a curse - blessing in that he can go anywhere, curse in that he doesn't settle into a position these days.

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Carlton 'Old Skool' Blues wrote:
It's the lack of depth and quality in our rotation that's causing us problem's the standard if any drops dramatically from A-class to C-class.
That's where the team struggles as we have to keep our best players on for a maximum time in order to be competitive, eg. Stevens on for the entire game on the ball.

Players are not SUPERMEN they need quality players as a back-up especially the way the game is played today with possession football it takes it's toll on the players. They need a break so they can revitilise themselves thats where the draft penalties of the past have hurt the team so much of getting such quality at the club.


But is a tired Stevens better than a fresh C-grader?


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A breather, a moment for recouperation, a rest ...call it what you like...it would definetely be better for Stevens. He needs all the strength he can muster in order to shake off the taggers (who are rotating on him). Probably we would see a reduction in clangers as well. Reprieve.

For Carlton it would be better because leaving Stevens on the ball for a whole game highlights the problem we have in that we have become very predictable. Mix it up.

As BV points out C graders will not become B graders without experience and instruction. Development.

For us looking in, it would be good to see the C Graders strengths and weaknesses playing in Stevens position every now and then. Clarity.

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If only Jackson and Smith were drafted onto the senior list we may of had other options to try in the midfield.

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Lance is a few votes clear in The Age's Footballer of the Year award.

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mjonc wrote:
If only Jackson and Smith were drafted onto the senior list we may of had other options to try in the midfield.


Would Smith be a better bet than Blackwell? At least Blackwell can kick to a lead, Smith is more grunt but he's a poor mans Bentick.

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