I don’t know about you Guys/Gals, but this issue has to come to a head once and for all. We are bleeding and can’t seem to agree on anything these days. It is no wonder that the greater football following community led by the media are labelling us as a rabble.

The solution to all the issues is as simple as seeing what is exactly the opinion of all the online Carlton supporters. At least this way the club can be provided with the details and can act accordingly.

If the consensus is that Pago Pago must go now, then at least our voices will be heard and the club will be on notice that a powerful united force is unhappy with the current situation and wants changes now.

If the consensus is that Pago Pago should remain until seasons end to be reviewed by the board, then also our voices will be heard and the club will be on notice that a powerful united force is supportive and will be patient.

Either way, the club, community, media and the online supporters are singing from the same song-sheet. Win-Win-Win-Win. We look good because we believe in democracy and once and for all it will be resolved.

I am happy to collate the results of the poll and report to each online board the results as they come to hand. If you wish, this can be taken over by another moderate who has a presence on TC, CSC and TBV.

I think we should run this until Saturday 13th 8pm EST. That gives plenty of time for all posters to assess their options.

The results will be provided to the club and the media to illustrate just where we stand.

Exercise your democratic right and vote, either way. Don’t sit on the fence like a yank. This will be interesting!

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2002:> "In their Masters Chambers
They Gathered for their Feast
They Stabbed us with their Steely Knives
But They Just Can't Kill The Beast!" <2016

THE BLUEBAGGER BEAST IS BAACKK!!

Just had a quick look at BF and Camo cant get the thing rolling until the saints game the week after anyway. Secondly, the Tigers ferals are starting to crawl out of the woodwork over there and laugh at us being a rabble!!!

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"Who discovered we could get milk from cows, and what did he think he was doing at the time?" Billy Connolly

Is it any wonder. The clown has been kicked out of any respectable online carlton forum and cant even get support with the idiots at Bigfooty. I wish the club would refund his membership and send him a Storm application

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T E A M

I demand a petiton to reveal the two people who voted to support the petition discussed in this petition.

Careful Buzz, he could end up on the Footy Show at this rate.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Reading between the lines on TBV that looks like the case.

Cammo better prepare his answers carefully, he might end up looking good but he could also end up looking like a flower.

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Pagan's future should be decided at the end of this season, we are the Carlton Football Club - not f!@#$%^ Richmond

First hours results: Total collated from 3 sites:

Petition Yes: 23%

Petition No: 77%

Only early days yet, should have clearer picture later tonight.

B B

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2002:> "In their Masters Chambers
They Gathered for their Feast
They Stabbed us with their Steely Knives
But They Just Can't Kill The Beast!" <2016

THE BLUEBAGGER BEAST IS BAACKK!!

Smacks of Max Gratten, just a way to get your boof-head in the papers while adding little of worth.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

Brizzy they may be people who want Pagan gone but dont agree with the petition

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Sounds like the republic referendum

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"Who discovered we could get milk from cows, and what did he think he was doing at the time?" Billy Connolly

The more public rabble rousing that happens loudly, the more the media are going to twist the knife, and make us look more and more like Richmond.

If the Administration of Carlton Football Club don't realise there is member and support dissatisfaction, then they are idiots.

No petition will be of any help whatsoever, and will in the short and long term, do far more damage than good.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Of course, there are already plenty here who have stated as such.

What is your point?

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The poll is asking people if they agree with the petition not the subject of the petition . But you know that .

so instead of wording the poll the way he did he just should of had a poll do you agree with petitions

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Seems pretty well worded to me. Essentially, do you agree with a petition asking for Pagan's sacking after 6 rounds of 2006?

There could also be a retrospective poll for you asking do you think Pagan should have been sacked after Round 1 2003?

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No it is asking should we participate in the petition to sack Pagan. If you dont like petitions then the answer is no . Doesn't mean you still dont want Pagan Sacked.

There should be two polls -

1. should we sack Pagan
2. should we organise a petition to sack Pagan

Come the middle of next year you will agree with my retrospective Poll

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Hey Steak and Kidney,

The issue is NOT whether Pagan should be sacked or retained. It is clearly whether we should be party to a friggin petition in a public place or not. Unfortunately this is putting the club in a bad light and, yeah we need more of that right now. Don't worry the stirrers will get their day in the sun by attracting the media sharks like Fatprick etc. who will seize on this and make it out to be more than it really is, which is a few and I repeat a few people behind Keyboards with a bee in their bonnet.

If they had any level of maturity and common sense, they would be going about this in a completely different way. Their method not only will harm the club, but cause a turf war at the MCG, just wait and see!!

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2002:> "In their Masters Chambers
They Gathered for their Feast
They Stabbed us with their Steely Knives
But They Just Can't Kill The Beast!" <2016

THE BLUEBAGGER BEAST IS BAACKK!!

After Second Hour: Total collated from 3 sites:

Petition Yes: 29%

Petition No: 71%

Only early days yet, should have clearer picture later tonight.

B B

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2002:> "In their Masters Chambers
They Gathered for their Feast
They Stabbed us with their Steely Knives
But They Just Can't Kill The Beast!" <2016

THE BLUEBAGGER BEAST IS BAACKK!!

I demand a poll whether we should have a poll about the poll.

I dont agree with the petition- But one thing in its favor it has brought the attention to the coach ( at last) so on one side it is a bad thing and makes us looks like a bunch of Ferrals and on the other hand it may make the board ,coach and players stand up and take notice.

I am interested in how the players will react to this

I am interested how the coaches will react

I am interested in how the board will react.

I can already see how the supporters are reacting

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws