Of course not... were only half way through our three year plan... the second three year plan....

everything is moving like a swiss watch....


Lets pay our players under 92.5% he said...............

i did hear him say that right???

thats ok for us to say it on TC ....president.... but managers will tell their players to jump ship the first chance they get ....

youre sounding like collo and you stabbed him in the back.....

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LONG LiVE IAN COLLINS!!!!!!!

people pick on jack but where has this [REDACTED] lead us in the last few years.

made us WORSE off financially, reappointed a joke of a coach & sold off our fkn ground and our history.

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I think there will be pressure for us to be on the relocate list....we dip our snouts in the AFL's money then we become vunerable....dont think we will be worrying too much about petitions ..we dont have the money to pay players so I presume you can forget about paying out the coach...
I'd like to see the AFL show their hand and back the club in to stay in Melbourne and for them to make a commitment to help steer us out of the mess......guarantee our future...as for Smorgan and co, its beyond them....it may need a white knight with a cash injection if the AFL wont commit to help save us in the short term..

Real test of character for some players as well....less than 92.5% of the cap means peanuts for some players and a test of loyalty for others..

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Bring back Jack!!!!!!!!

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Elliot [REDACTED] the club....!!!.. destroyed it!!!

Collo is an administrator.. no vision....stayed there a year too long...

Smorgon is doing it because it sounds like a good title to have...has no idea about the football industry....Who wouldnt want to be El Presidente Banana Republic .


And as for the home ground it isnt a home ground that you can sustain an existence on.... only fools think otherwise..

The only good decision they made was to leave the joint.

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any wealthy people barrack for carlton? any russel crows out there who can come buy the club and send us in the right direction, maybe a romanian oil tychoon the guy who bought chelsea Abromavich i think thats how you spell it

not scare tactics from smorgo. We are $7 mill in debt, which is our facility limit and we need another $1.5 million in the next 6 months.

Without the AFL we'd be insolvent and you'd close up shop.

This is where you gotta have a clear plan on-field and off. We don't.

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Synbad both of those mounia had their hand in @#$%&! us over.
I'm not a Collo fan, nor am i a Jack fan, but both these pricks have let their ego's get in the way of the best fkn football club in this league.

We sit back and laughed at everyone for how many years as we had our decades in the sun, now we are looking down the barrell on non existance.

where has collo lead us?

nowhere

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Jack got us in this position!!

He rooted the club so badly, that 4 years later, we're still f*cked.

how hard is that for you to understand?

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it really is the Elliot Spectre hanging over our head ....

It really is coming back to bite us .... what is with the Elliot Legacy everything in the past 5 years he has been oinvloved in has gone to crap... all his business / his marriage / the beloved Blues...

Seriously what happened to the Blues after 1995 we came off a Premiership the club was flying should have been one of the power houses.

Such a sad state of affairs overpaid contracts to players / no vision from the board for the Future / getting cuaght and smacked for $1 million by the AFL for salary caps .. as if we wernt paying players enough already / Then as a last gasp by Elliot he signs up DP for Mega bucks which i guess wouldnt be a bad thing if the club was financially sound as he is a well acredited coach (Not DP's Fault) but why did we do this when we whee going to be smashed by the AFL for Salary breaches and be denied any draft inclusion for 2 years. DP is a coach for a settled side not a club in turmoil with spot fires all over the place.

The Board back 2000 and before have so much to answer for ... and agree with Synbad have done little to instill confidence in a lot of what they have done..

Cripes there a mega Millionairs in the board and associates.. The board has caused 90% of the problems to where we are at this very minute .. would be great if they chipped in and gave the supporters hope and a example to also help..

90% of what has hit this great club goes straight back to the board ... over playing player contracts / salary breaches / not promoting the club for sponsership until the last minute / over exnting the non existant funds to pay a coach well beyond the Blues Monetary situation..

Cant blame the players / coaches for all this ... buck stops with the clowns on the board.

Yes thats a worry. Will also stop us from recruiting any good young player out of contract in the PSD.

I reckon they are hoping to save $1mil next year from Kouta's contract and get the extra $2mil from the AFL that all the clubs have asked for. That represents a $3mil turnaround and possibly positive cashflow.

I'm beginning to seriously suspect the "3 year plan" was simply to wait out until all the old contracts expired and hope that the next rights deal delivered the club more cash.

If it's this bad now, why the hell did Pagan get 3 years on the sort of dollars he's on. Forgetting whether he's the right coach for a minute, they should have risked getting to the end of the season and getting to a stronger negotiating position. Even if it meant risking losing him and paying an untried coach minimal $$$.

The previous board never had this much trouble getting corporate sponsors on board.

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but the previous board never had to market the club with a rabble of a team onfield.

we were always successful.

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I probably would have worded it differently but the Kaptain got it right....Jack Elliott has almost destroyed the club....its only assets are the loyal members and supporters...and some young talented players that if we can keep them...

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And if you look at the vlaue proposition of different club's, we look like we are still using techniques that we used in the 80's to market the club. The game's moved on a long way since then...

YEs Good ole Elliot hey the Game the mr Fanmtastic who has managed to deystroy everything he has been involved in.

Now i couldnt give a rats if he screwed all his own businesses or companies ... but when he screws something that is not his and causes a cascade of issues and problems for this club then yer i got a big problem with Good ole Jack.

Pity Jack wasnt ousted back when we had a chance to get Fitzpatrick on board as the President we may be the strongest club in the AFL now ... Hindsite great thing to have

Thrylos... Collo did what he could do... ran it like an administrator would...

The problem is he has clowns on his board and he didnt actively go out to source fresh blood.

When shit came to shove and newies with ambition were looking in.. people like Smorgon thought its now or never... and stuck the knife in...

Valmorbid as VP? along with Sticks???... If Sticks didnt take it.. Wilson was ready.... they were not going to allow new people to come in and take charge.

I know what collo did... wasnt flash but it was about some stability.. as a bean counter thats all he could do..

But what have the others(not including Mathison done???)

Kap lan can fill us in... seeing he thinks i dont like smorgon cos hes Jewish...

And i probably dont want Valmorbida on cos hes Italian..

and i obviously didnt support Pavlou cos hes greek.

Theyre just not up to the task of turning this club around thats all...!!!


And PP could never be our home.. with its 22,000 attendances..

Thats just flower crazy talk!!!

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smorgan made it public so we could get more corporate sponsors. simple as that

i think he handled it well. we as fans, especially those who arnt members need to realise the seriousness of our situation. i hope this gets those who arnt members to sign up.

elliot f**ked us. legends stand, dicking around with the balance book, ridiculous contracts. kouta, campo etc.

we need to change the way we play, we need to become a more attractive team to watch.

i really want pagan out, hes a cancer to this club, what he has done with our team is a joke. sporn back in, ur kidding arnt u dennis, he played one good game on hird when hird had the flu and was still down cos of the whole mclaren incident. russell has to play, kennedy has to play, bower has to play when hartlett is fit he has to play. no more dicking around with bannister, sporn etc. the fans who arnt members need to see the future of our club. why draft these guys and not play them?

if someone from the club is reading this (highly unlikely) fix this. we have too many guys who just arnt good enough. we have too many guys we dont know about. its time to play them. if we dont, we will lose them. kouta will retire cos we cant afford to pay him, stevens might be traded (hope not, hes a great player and asset to our team) to alleiviate our financial woes. we gotta back the kids now.

CARLTON FOREVER, NO MATTER WHAT.

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Carlton 2012: Lets remind them why they once feared the Dark.

OK, I was a little intemperate.

But TheGame's call for the return of Elliott isn't a joke, he really means it.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.