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If true, lets wait for it to eventuate and see whats required.
Hypothetically, would you allow Lofts and other Elliott cronies control the club again if Pratt requested it?

It may be a magnificently generous offer with no strings attached (and Pratt IS a fantastic supporter of the club) but lets wait to see the conditions.

I'd rather get out there and shake tins before letting those incompetents near the board again.

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As they said on Triple M in the follow-up to BT's bombshell, it's just a rumour, but can anyone thing of a rumour about the Blues that hasn't been true recently?

If he wants to put $7m into the club, and wants to replace the board, you can be sure the people he replaces them with won't be a bunch of hacks.


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Blue Vain wrote:
If true, lets wait for it to eventuate and see whats required.
Hypothetically, would you allow Lofts and other Elliott cronies control the club again if Pratt requested it?

It may be a magnificently generous offer with no strings attached (and Pratt IS a fantastic supporter of the club) but lets wait to see the conditions.

I'd rather get out there and shake tins before letting those incompetents near the board again.


Agreed.

Lots of water to pass under the bridge yet.

It's going to be a long few weeks for people in here I think... :lol:

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Blue Vain wrote:
Hypothetically, would you allow Lofts and other Elliott cronies control the club again if Pratt requested it?


NO :evil:

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Elliot can't be a director of the club. Wouldn't mind making him marketing/communications manager though. I miss the arrogance.

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Elliot can't be a director of the club. Wouldn't mind making him marketing/communications manager though. I miss the arrogance.


That's why BV said Elliot's cronies :wink:

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Elliot can't be a director of the club. Wouldn't mind making him marketing/communications manager though. I miss the arrogance.


That's why BV said Elliot's cronies :wink:


That would be correct Effes :oops:

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It was the arrogance that got us to this point.

Don't miss it at all... :?

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It was the arrogance that got us to this point.

Don't miss it at all... :?


I mean the arrogance that built the rivalries eg. 99 Prelim. Elliot was a great promoter and stirrer of the blockbusters against traditional rivals.

Anyway back to the topic, it still may be rumour but my spirits have sky rocketed dramatically today, it provides hope, it provides a future, it provides postive news for the players and hopefully enough positive energy in the stands tomorrow to get our boys home.

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Could we be so brash as too ask for an extra couple of mill, just so we can invest it wisely :-D

It could be subject to Carlton signing 35,000 members by the end of June.

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Could we be so brash as too ask for an extra couple of mill, just so we can invest it wisely :-D

It could be subject to Carlton signing 35,000 members by the end of June.


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Pratt is NECK FACE.


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Elliot can't be a director of the club. Wouldn't mind making him marketing/communications manager though. I miss the arrogance.


I hope people have learned through all of this. Aroogance is one of the key factors which caused the mess.

Like BV and GWS, I will be waiting to see more details before I start jumping up and down with glee.

I do not want CFC to become a private Club, we've already had a taste of what a shambles that can make it.


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If Pratt wants to donate 7 million then it must be unconditional. Otherwise he can keep his money.


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Elliot can't be a director of the club. Wouldn't mind making him marketing/communications manager though. I miss the arrogance.


I hope people have learned through all of this. Aroogance is one of the key factors which caused the mess.

Like BV and GWS, I will be waiting to see more details before I start jumping up and down with glee.

I do not want CFC to become a private Club, we've already had a taste of what a shambles that can make it.


Their are different forms of arrogance Headplant. I don't agree with most forms but as i said in a post after the one you have quoted, their is nothing wrong with the type of arrogance i was talking about.

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Could we be so brash as too ask for an extra couple of mill, just so we can invest it wisely :-D

It could be subject to Carlton signing 35,000 members by the end of June.


Thats a great idea. Put some pressure back on those who haven't signed yet. They can back down by saying there's been change.

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If Pratt fixes our $$$'s then blueman may have had his psychic tentacles in the correct psychic orrifices. Where are you blueman?


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If Pratt wants to donate 7 million then it must be unconditional. Otherwise he can keep his money.


No need to be too extreme. It's basic good governance that you'd want some input into where you're putting your money. People with a spare 7 mill don't just throw it away.

One of the things that I've not heard discussed but have thought about a bit is the loss of our corporate community with the changing of the administration over the last few years. Elliott ran a pretty closed shop and whilst we had some good long term sponsors the club was never the great networking zone that other clubs, (Collingwood, Essendon*, even bloody St. Kilda) have been building over the last few years.

Due to the length of the Elliott reign and the small size of that community our club was seen as exclusive rather than inclusive and that's biting hard now that that small band of corporates have been booted and/or packed up and left. The vast majority of CFC corporates over that 20 year period were Jack's mates or ex-players with business careers. It's also the reason we've struggled so hard for quality candidates for the board.

People talk about the current board's inability to attract dollars to the club but in reality it's not all that surprising. There are the obvious groups like the Blue Suits but it's small bikkies and not exactly going to result in drawing in the big bucks long term. This board inherited a club without a genuine corporate community. It was a small group to begin with and then it was even smaller.

I'm not trying to suggest that this board's not incompetent here - there's enough evidence of that in other areas - just that I think the sort of contacts needed to pull in serious money are beyond them and there's no existing framework within the club to leverage.

If Pratt was to stump up some serious cash he'd also most likely bring in some seriously connected people to make sure that the donation wasn't just a short to medium term bandaid. That's only sensible.

What I'd like to see is any group that might be formed by such a scenario be a diverse one and not a collection of old mates.

If Pratt can organise a transition with that in mind then I'm in.

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Something being skipped over was TJ commenting that he believes Fahoud will be the next President. Have your connections elaborated further on those comments GWS?

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