Trading whitnall...you all must be crazy...this guy loves the navy blue...the young players look up to him...he has had a bad run with injuries over last few years and he isnt like certain other players who hold the club for ransom...this guy will be our next captain...so instead of everybody being so bloody negative for a change lets be postive about some good things that are happening around our club...

wasnt is whitnall that was instructing the players to go to the fans after the Essendon* game...remember is start from the top and it works its self down...leadership and steadying of the ship so we can move forward...whitnall is providing that...

So get real and start being postive........

I disagree, or do not understand where you're coming from about decisions being made for the future and not the now. You argue it's only 7 rounds in so we shouldn't be jumping up and down or something, and history is not on Whitnall's side. I'd argue history is not on any players side as eventually they all have to move on. The fact that Whitnall has played 7 good weeks of footy has no bearing on the next seven week or the next seven years. There is only right here and right now. And right here and right now Whitnall is playing very good footy.

At the end of the season, when the footy is over, and Whitnall isn't playing any games because the finals are over, the people in charge will make a decision about the future. Right now they are very very focussed on the now and what has to be done this weekend.

The trouble is people are always looking so far ahead they can't appreciate what's around them. I guess that's where the saying came from that you need to stop and smell the flowers or coffee or whatever it is.

I also find the crackpot theory that Teague won the B&F a couple of years ago and now he's in the reserves, so the same thing will happen to Whitnall, quite laughable. It's a bit like when you hide a ball from a dog, and it eventually sniffs it out, and then when you hide it in a different place, the first place the dog goes to is where you hid the ball the other time.

Spot on Azzablue!!! I am a big fan of Whitnall. He is as passionate about the Navy Blues as anyone. I think he should be our next captain too. I have been advocating that for a very long time, albeit not on this forum.

I did say I couldn't understand it.

then why would you quote me, and then post something completely irrelevant to my quote.... for fun?

To try and understand it, and to illustrate how I didn't understand it?

What are the rules?

Lance has been nothing short of sensational this year. As someone said earlier being able to complete a full pre-season and having no injuries makes a huge difference. Lance has also been allowed to settle into a position and make it his own rather than playing'spareparts' man as he has had to over the last couple of years.

Watching Lance at his best is a sheer joy. Have always had faith in him and have had no doubt he would prove his many detractors once given an oppotunity.

most people would ask a question and wait for an answer if they're not sure. questions asked within the same context of responding to perceived points can only be assumed to be rhetorical.

does my post make sense now that I've explained it?

He has earn't close to 2 million dollars in the last 4 years. My expectation would be for him to be nothing short of sensational over that whole period. As to not being able to complete a full pre-season as justification for the shortfall in his performance, we can also say that he, on a regular basis, has not presented himself in an appropriate condition to allow himself to complete a pre-season.
It is a pity that there are still question marks over a man who is absolutely flying. Only if we all felt confident we knew how long it will last.

He has earn't close to 2 million dollars in the last 4 years. My expectation would be for him to be nothing short of sensational over that whole period. As to not being able to complete a full pre-season as justification for the shortfall in his performance, we can also say that he, on a regular basis, has not presented himself in an appropriate condition to allow himself to complete a pre-season.
It is a pity that there are still question marks over a man who is absolutely flying. Only if we all felt confident we knew how long it will last.

completely agree

I'm not saying Lance isn't playing really well at the moment... but if we lost sight of its context then we're not being analytical.

And its not just about trading him or not trading him... its everything to coaching, positioning, training, whether to make him captain or not etc etc.

Its like the age old: is the player who's awesome for 1 season have a better career than a consistently good contributor?

I think this is exactly the reason why admin want one thread per player. It's strange to come into a Whitnall is playing really well thread and find out it's actually a trade Whitnall thread.

What Whitnall earned in 2005 for his output is irrelevant to whether his sort of player is required by our Club (for whatever reasons) in 2007 (and beyond).

Feeling 'ripped off' is an emotion that this can do without.

Tyrants I didnt mention form - just income. Debate his form as much as you want but what he earned out of the Club in the past doesn't impact on his trading or not.

It may impact on his future salary negotiations but his income (purported or actual) does not affect our need for him (purported or actual) in 2007.