Yeah but when we put some names up for trade we could say he is a Half Forward Defensive Flooder, Or Centre half Flood..

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Look ahead i know the easy option is trading the only decent players on the list to get new talent in but look within 2 years and there are several deficienies in the team... well thats an understatement and i guess you can only go by the most recent game.
In 2 Years time the senior line up will be so thin

Over 25
Lappin - will be gone within 2 years form this year since shoulder poor
French - Player VFL enough said will be lucky to survive the year
Saddington - Prob on 2 year contract lucky if he is there another year
Stevo - most senior Midfielder has to be retained to have some experience there
Kouta - Gone end of the year retired
Whitnall - Regardless of peoples opnion he has been the key on field leader and backman
Prender - not getting a game so hardly likely to be retained
Fev - Key forward and has matured thus far
So of that list only potentially 3 remain in Whits / Fev / Stevo which is so
thin if we loose 1 or 2 of them we will have zilch experience on the list.

Great Advocating getting another 10 kids but reality is if you dont have any seniors to lead them you will get no developement unless you like to see a reserves VFL side playing in the AFL.
Also if you get rid of all your performaing players with some leadership you going to have difficulty attracting any other senior players via PSD or trade.
Also you have to retain the good kids. By ridding the team of any of the senior leaders in Fev / Lance may not look good to the kids who look up to them.. We have prescious little of the comedity of senior / leadership players.

Expenandable players potentially
Houla - Fre wheeler when not checked and very rarely does he get tagged as the other team normally dosnt bother has no hope on a tag.

Our greatest deficency is the midfield / ruck area. this is the area which is failing to deliver the pill and not stopping it from rebounding into our backline.

This is the area that needs so much work.

So some want Whits traded some want Fev traded (not sure why lol) some Stevo. I would look more to Houla as a trade he is a luxury this team cant afford to have at the moment.
Additionally if we could trade for something
Deluca - agree with most posters
LIVO - Almost given up hope on
Sporn - not sure he is what the team can do with

Players who prob be lucky to be retained
Wiggins - One game dosnt make him secure but he did okay
Chambers - Gone
Teague - Gone
Prender - Gone guessing though he has been okay in VFL
Davies - Not sure
Banister - not sure
Longmuir - Guessing wont be there
Magrath - Not sure

Retired
Kouta
French

From where i sit there are 13 max players who could go realistically only 6-8 will be gone.

And from seeing the game today ... guess best option is to open up 4 - 6 positions for Kids to hold a spot Kennedy / Murph / Blackwell / Russell / Edwards / Bower / Flint if we can get him in from LTI

maybe have 2 potions floating for 2nd chancers - Banister / Deluca / Bryan / Magrath / Prender / Livo / Longmuir / Sporn / Davies

So that leaves 14 core senior positions and say 6 Kids / 2 Second chancers maybe keeps some stability

IF it means that Kouta / Lappin / French are rested for the kids i am all for that now

Also seems like both Waite and Fisher are LTI now bring in Flint / Jackson or Smith they can be part of the 6 Kids must play policy.

Expendable players Houla??????????????????????????


What do you think youll get for Houla???????????????


see.. what i dont understand with you blokes is this...

There is an element of risk attacked to everything.. inclusing crossing the road...

But when you invest you get the biggest returns for the biggest risks...

So you must take a risk and usually a big one to get the best return.

But then you have to get clever and when you invest you look at upside and downside...

Now the man with the least amount of upside that can return the highest upside...is Lance...

Hes also the man that has the biggest downside to where he is at right now in the short to medium term...

So if you had any brains.. hed be what you would be focussing on as your investment into the future...crystalising return a pick with upside.. in the best draft

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I dont think Lance will get much more in a trade over Lance if you are looking at a second rounder . expendable Houla is more expendable than Lance

In your team of under 20 first round draft picks Synbad who will be the experience in such a team ..who will be in the leadership group in our CFC TAC Squad you want to put togther.

you want to throw away all our experience with out thinking of the consequences so trade Lance / Stevo ... at least you decided to kepp fev

Guess we had better keep French, Kouta and Lappin cuase they will be the only players over 25 in your TAC squad.

Also i am guessing this TAC squad you want to have is going to be ready made and big bodied enough to not get belted and i dont mean on the scoreboard but physically destroyed by teams.

I have no issues of Lance or Stevo being traded if we had other options on the list to remain as teachers and have experience but by next year we have very little you want to trade away the remainder.

Who is leadership material to step up
Thornton, Waite, Bentick, Fisher, Walker none are even close to being leaders at this stage which is where you would be looking to fill the void.

Best option we have is Murphy and he is a 18 Year old kid maybe in 2-3 years we can give him the mantle like Cousins was at a young age but not yet

Okay Synbad you win i am on your bandwagon lets trade everyone over 25 or delist which ever option comes first and call ourselves the TAC BLUES

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Lance worth more than Houla..

My TAC squad??... well thats our TAC squad.. like it or not.. thats how it will end up....

Physically destroyed???... how does Lance Koua Lappin prevent this now???

Teaching what?????...

Why worry about who will flip the coin then when we dont worry about who flips the coin now..??

None of them are leaders .. yet! right!!.. but noone is leading anyway...


Do you dream the same dreams as Denis???

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Dont worry.. Fev is over 25... Barnaby will be here.., McGrath.. Stevens... will too.. Lappin has another year... blah blah...

And Walker Carazzo Waite T Bird etc will be 22/23...maturing and Sellers Proud Murphy etc will be 19/20/21
A year later they will ALL be another year older....
amazing what happens with time.. people get older...

But Lance should go to bring another gun kid to mature along with what we have for a tilt at a premiership when theyre 21/25....

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Well said.

Call me crazy, but I'm beginning to suspect that Synbad has a hidden agenda. I think that he might actually want us to trade Lance...

And where are the next batch of leaders coming from Synbad before making statements back em up...

The only player IMO showing leadership is Lance you can dispute that as you say he has no position is useless and is too slow ... but he is showing leadership has taken the most marks and being used to fill gaps which is why he has no position because there are so many friggin holes in the team. If we had no holes to fill i am sure Lance would have a position.

And if he is all the things you say Synbad well he aint going to get a top 20 draft pick let alone a 3rd to 4th rounder if he is bad as you say then he isnt worth much then is he. Which is it If he is playing well and showing something where he is worth something or he is useless slow and not showing any leadership which is it Synbad.

And umm where have i been pushing Kouta or Lappin as leaders .... none of them are thats stupidly obvious mix in French so only options i can see are Lance and Stevo and even Stevo is struggling.

And where is this next leadership group you think is coming from ... only possible candidate i rate is Murphy. If Lance not shoing anything we are so much trouble then as the only option is our number 18 Year old kid Murphy better nmake him Captain now.

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Wolfe.. i am not sure you have been listening to me for the last three or four years....

Ok .. here i go again.... WE HAVE NO LEADERS... the kids are doing it the hard way.... and thats why were shit!!!!

NOW... get this bit because this might be the answer to your question..we have no football leadership we have a guy that calls out heads or tails before the game....

If youre worried about who will call the drop of the coin at least at a 50/50 i will make myself personally available to walk out into the middle.. calll.. turn around and point to an end and then trod off the turf...over the fence and disappear into the crowd...

.. until a kid comes through who can LEAD!!!

Hows that????

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Synbad,

Do you still want Nick Stevens to be the next captain?

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Well in that list the only possibles that may still be around are Fev and Stevens and even from what you have said previously Fev maybe the only one left.

Hey we all have opionions Synbad and if our list had more senior experience i am sure then the question of Lance would be much easier to answer but we dont have that.

And sorry if i dont agree with you that Walker / Thornton / Bentick / carrots still dont show enough Signs of being genuine leaders just my opinion maybe in 2-3 years a couple may step up.

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BB2005... do you still think we will be back in 2005????

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Yes.

Now answer my question please.

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have you seen me say the Kouta is a good leader ... no have i said Lappin is no ... have i said Fev is improving and maturing yes .. I have said from the point of view of directing players and assisting Lance has shown something. I thought Stevo may have been an option but at moment his game is struggling so hard for him to be captain when he gets shut out of a game from taggers.

I have argued from the start of the year that Kouta should not be Captain. My opinion has been on watching Lance on the ground not just on a TV Set. Have you gone to game this year Synbad do you see what is being done outside the square box.. the only player showing any leadership is Lance. and you say we have none and i say we have one not much difference between our opionions except for me having one option.

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Wolfe Walker should definately be considered as a future leader. So too should Waite. That being said. If Lance goes we'll have Skipper Stevo, and the leadership group consisting of Fev, Waite, Walker, add Murphy to this and its not that bad .
Leaders do not have to be older heads either, just leaders.

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Maybe we will see something from Walks and Waite but at the moment they still more work on there own game they still need help which we have very little above to support them.
I agree on Murphy and i have seen more from Murphy in 8 games than i have seen in Walks and Waite but they are still young maybe in 2 years they will be able to share some of the load but at the moment they still need to improve there own games.
Fev i agree if he can keep showing his present endevour and run the forward line that would be a big plus. but the options are thin at present

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Sack the friggin' coach and you'll find the list isn't as bad as you thiink. Thus far we're discussing Titanic deck-chair shuffling. Let's get to the root of the problem and then the rest will gradually sort itself out over time and natural attrition of players. not knee-jerk reactions.