A more successful on field Carlton means more bums on seats for everybody and greater national TV coverage.

Make no mistake, our poor 4 years IS having an effect on TV ratings as much as people through the gate.

It works for businesses that are based on discounting but the Carlton Football Club is F@%&#! if that's what we're basing our image on.

Dont foget we are selling an assett if the AFL takes over the lease for PP. We dont get any income from providing it as a ground thats played on. We are not getting something for free. We get $6 million because we are selling our lease. Selling it!!. Marcus Rose and Smorgon have apparently showed the AFL where the money went for the move to Telstra and I cant beleive the Board do not have a business plan developed and that the AFL hasnt seen it. All clubs who need help have to have business plans. It defies logic that they dont.

Unlkess Synbad has extraordinary insider knowledge I dont know how he can say we dont have aplan to move forward.

Synbad i think you just dont get it.......... we need to start winning games and playing finals then you wills see this club turn around simple as that.

So why not vent your anger towards a football department that let our list plummit to where it is now with no depth, no skill and no pace.

Winning games = a healthy Carlton football club its simple as that.

The current board i feel have done some great work like i mentioned in another thread this current board have

• sold all of our sponsorship, first time we have had a ball sponsor for some time infact the first time we have sold all of our sponsorship for some time

• Ground sponsorship deal with MC labour park

• Introducing the sunday home games Indesit kick it with Kouta which also gets around to primary schools to help promote the club and footy

• They held the first business luncheon on friday which has not been done before, 350 business men attended which will help bring mor corporate sponsorship ie selling corporate boxes to our home games

• The Carlton shop on Faraday street

• are currently talking to CUB about some kind of sponsorship or corporate deal

• welcoming back past players to the club. 4 past players get invited at every home game luncheon hosted by the president

• Changing the best and fairest award to the John Nichols medal

• embracing new supporters of the club like the Grollos and Fahours of the business world and not living in the past (pratt and the likes)

• feasibility studies which have indicated that a community redevolpment of Princess Park will not be commercially viable

• have offered Princess Park to Grocon as a possible development and they declined the offer so therefore the best option is to sell the lease to the AFL

Unless you can illustrate for us what it is.. we dont have one.
The good thing about having a plan is its obvious...

So what is it???

Can you help me???

No I dont have a copy of the business plan but because its not posted on the blues website or available to you and I is not proof that one does not exist. Simply, I cannot believe the AFL will assist carlton without them having a strategic plan and I cannot believe the GS who is chair of an ASX 200 company does not have one either. Moving our games from PP is one obvious part of it. Being sensible on players contract a-la Lappin might be another part of it. Selling all available sponsorship might form a part of it. Regenerating PP might be another part of it too. Other bits might be commercial in confidence. Selling one of your few assets is a dame good start as it happens.

As you know people jump off buying memberships when the team isnt winning. we dont have 35 thousand nailed on members year in year out that the club can count on no matter what. you know that. decreases in membership and gate receipts are going to compound an already bad situation. What the club is hopefully doing is putting building blocks in place. It aint going to happen overnight but Im willing to give this board a chance.

Ok, in that case we have a plan but its not obvious to anyone.. including you what were attempting to do to turn things around...

So its not a very good plan then is it?


plans are obvious.. unless theyre secret plans... like when youre invading the enemy...

But Kennett has a plan ... everyone knew what he was trying to do... it was an obvious plan.

G W Bush had a plan to inade Iraq... everyone knew it... but what we didnt know is how it was going to be done and where.. because that plan was secret...

So my guess is youre equating our plan to the invasion plan of Iraq (aka the secret plan)and not one of rebuilding a 20 million dollar football club...
Ok.. im with you.. and you do what with yourself exactly? Student?

Students have plans.. they go to uni to pass to get a degree to become something...
But student spys have secret plans... they are secretly studying to spy on the enemy .. so sometimes their parents dont even know what theyre planning on doing....

Youre a secret service spy arent you Anfield???

We dont always know the plan right???

But rest assured just cos there is nothing obviuos after 4 years doesnt mean there isnt one... Right???



Princes Park = Pentagon.....

Never really know whats going on in its bowels... ..........unless youre Caro....

It's understood the group is keen to attract the best football people to the club, including Bulldogs recruiting manager Scott Clayton

Despite a denial from Carlton benefactor Richard Pratt that he would bail out the cash-strapped club or challenge the board, speculation persists about a challenge.

Ok, in that case we have a plan but its not obvious to anyone.. including you what were attempting to do to turn things around...

So its not a very good plan then is it?


plans are obvious.. unless theyre secret plans... like when youre invading the enemy...

But Kennett has a plan ... everyone knew what he was trying to do... it was an obvious plan.

G W Bush had a plan to inade Iraq... everyone knew it... but what we didnt know is how it was going to be done and where.. because that plan was secret...

So my guess is youre equating our plan to the invasion plan of Iraq (aka the secret plan)and not one of rebuilding a 20 million dollar football club...
Ok.. im with you.. and you do what with yourself exactly? Student?

Students have plans.. they go to uni to pass to get a degree to become something...
But student spys have secret plans... they are secretly studying to spy on the enemy .. so sometimes their parents dont even know what theyre planning on doing....

Youre a secret service spy arent you Anfield???

We dont always know the plan right???

But rest assured just cos there is nothing obviuos after 4 years doesnt mean there isnt one... Right???



Princes Park = Pentagon.....

Never really know whats going on in its bowels... ..........unless youre Caro....

After that pile of nonsense my high opinion of you is beginning to turn. You appear to be turning into a quivering mass of nonsensical resentment. Just answer this without the colourful similies about the the Iran war etc. Will the AFL hand over million of dollars to the club without the club presenting them with a plan for the future that includes turning and building the business around? Yes or No will do
No obvious plan? Whats wrong with you?

What is moving games from PP about? Oh yes more people can go and see the club play. Thats right more people= more gate receipts-thats a hard one to figure out. A good deal on break even at Telstra (some say the best deal)- damn thats not going to help the club. Something Essendon* and cwood did years ago was moving to allow for bigger gates. Selling all the sponsorship! Goodness me carlton doesnt need to do that?-doesnt that =more money for the club. Selling assests like the lease -hmm sounds like part of a business strategy to me