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Synbad get with the program, and relax a bit would you. I can't see how you could take any of my remarks personally. When I referred to Richmondesque qualities I was referring to slander, not constructive criticism.
Talk about exaggeration, off the track and misquoting. What's your point anyway? Talk about rhetoric!
Where do I make reference to the 'average supporter'?
Let me use some of your tactics:
Should one kill a doctor for legally aborting a child as a means of righteous protest?
Will the clubs problems go away if slander is the only mode of constructive criticism?
I don't think you have the foggiest about what I actually posted. I don't think you even read or comprehend it. You read the little voice in your head...not my words. The proof is in your post.
I know our club is sick, but I maintain I'm referring to the theme of the thread. I'm looking for a weakness that the AFL could prey on. I suggested that the cost to the AFL disposing of the Carlton as we know it today, would be less and less by the day whilst our memberships erode and the supporters aggression becomes nonsensical and divisive, resulting in the club becoming less attractive for new members and sponsors. How are comments like "they're F***!!!", "He's shit", "the list is shit", "he's a softcock" constructive? Really I read that emotive crap, and understand that people are venting, but I get nothing from it, and neither does anybody else worth influence. Alright, they're entertaining, they're real, but they are not constructive. That's my observation.
I don't believe that the AFL will close Carlton down, but I did identify a weakness. Divisiveness and forms of protest that have no weight or constructiveness.
I know one thing for sure I know that to keep things moving along you need to have something constructive to say. I do know there is an art in negotiation and influence. Moving people to think your way cannot happen when the whole argument is a bunch of expletives and emotional nonsense, degrading my club and it's players. Do you understand where I'm coming from? When protesting you need to say something that people will listen to, and articulate it in a manner that is logical and constructive, let alone listenable.
Whilst I don't agree with everything you say, I admire your commitment and pragmatism in reference to where we are at as well as your constructive suggestions for our future direction.
I agree with your logic regarding trades.
I agree that there seems to be no plan.
I agree there seems to be no vision from the current board.
I agree that we need new blood on the board.
I agree that we need corporate sponsors.
I agree we are sick
I agree our brand is tarnished.
I agree our kids are the future
I agree that our brand needs promotion
I agree we are broke
I agree that our presidents' have not been/are not media savvy
I agree we look like chooks with no head
I agree that the clubs problems wont go away if we shut up.
I don't want to be like you in your post and blow my own trumpet, but listen fella, I am not sitting on my hands, I do know the right and wrong way to get things moving.
Do you consider the following as sitting on my hands? I fly down to Melbourne to watch games to support my team when time permits. I have a lot of friends who are Carltonians, both ex players and members. I have bought over 20 memberships a year since 2003, (and influenced many others to purchase them), raffle tickets, merchandise, even named my kid Carlton. That means $1000's per year, (and I'm not cash rich). I am a 150% committed Carltonian, and I stick up for the club through thick and thin. Do you not see that I'm committed?
Let me remind you that it's not the supporters who have stood by the club, it's the members. There's a big difference in the level of commitment between the two. Get that right and understand the difference before you shoot off. Do you know for a fact that the slanderous supporters I refer to are all members? I know they are not. They've admitted it on this site. Synbad your comments to my post are plain ignorant and self serving.
The club does have an obvious pattern to improve on the field, and you've said it time and time again; it's investing in our kids. We've been forced to adopt a youth policy. That's not Robinson Crusoe stuff, but it's worth remembering before you fester in your own lunchbox.
And finally, whilst I admire the constructive criticism from you, your commitment for a better Carlton, and including your intelligence, but where's the intelligence with the bullshit reference you come up with time and time again about the drink and drinking with some of the posters (including me), when you waver your right to be intelligent? What's that got to do with anything related to anything except drinking?....and what gives you the impression that I have a laptop with wireless connectivity posting from the pub ie suggesting my comments are..."(from the pub mind you...)"....more bullshit!! So who is being ignorant? Leave me alone would you, stop misquoting me, consider the possibility that in some way we're on the same side... and you do sound like you need a drink...you drink don't you?
Your weakest post ever Synbad. Weak as piss mate. Bring back the old intelligent Synbad. I like him.
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