Well we currently have $1.5Million dollars this year running around who provide 2/5ths of @#$%&! all. I thought you might care about that, but you obviously don't.

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Can someone explain why Lance started down back in the third when both he and Fevola were doing well late in the second qtr?

It just seems very reactive and defensive. Surely you would try to win the game.

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don't bother Jim.... unless you can speak La Laese

normal objective and analytical english hasn't worked... and they certainly don't possess proficiency in that language.

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not really... I'd much rather have a chat to this brick wall here, and then beat my head against it until I'm delirious.

But, given that this IS an internet forum and I MUST commit a flippant throw away line for fear of my post count not looking so strong, I'll just say

"the fish rots at the head"

OR, a FUNNIER way of putting it (and therefore, a way that will endear me, the poster, to other posters in this ultra important internet forum):

"Memo to Pagan: don't shit where you eat"

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The players are mentally shot.
Too late for little gimmicks like go-carting etc.
They need a MAJOR change to occur to shift their mindset.

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There's so much I could say...

its sad hey?

I reckon sack the whole football club and start again.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

starting with its supporter forum

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fitzroy in 1996 didn't play as bad as this ........ disgrace. How do you score 1 goal only in 3 quarters? Plain embarassing.....there's no killer instinct left at the carlton footy club.

Dannyboy,

Might not be a bad option because we are going no where fast the way things currently are

ok... maybe fitzroy were slightly worse, but not by much!!!!

yep. Its time to forget about do's and don'ts, maybes and 'coses

just bring in the grim reaper and reap away

fact is we need some Visgoths or Jutes

the Carlton football jumper does not look good in babes or bumblers

the white CFC looks like a chicken-shit heart.

I reckon raw chook heads and hands up cows arses for every player on the list!



Oh boy can't wait for the dreams tonight.

Seriously though
anyone want to write the ghost article this week?

And Denis should quit

Kouta should quit

I should quit. Soccer is such a nice game.

Might invest in some golf clubs

and a shack far away from the maddening crowd..... Alas poor carlton I knew him well now he's a ballet dancer in a tutu kicking frogs down the greedy throats of French Prostitues - Is there anything left for us?

Might I suggest a name change

no more Talking Carlton. I think we should go with Not Even Thinking Carlton

or Shut the @#$%&! up

or Silence is Golden and hell is navy blue.

I blame Houla

this club's downfall is directly connected to the moment we drafted him!

and Tyrant - how soft is he! A real Tyrant would have done something by now. Oh where are our elephants? O take me to the Steppes on Time!

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I'm sorry.....................i really am......................but i have to say it!

Get the hell away from my football club Denis!

Your killing the players, and the club! Please - i beg of you..........leave, quit, piss off!!!!!!!

Why flood when we are 60 points down?

Why do you continually believe that an empty forward line is gonna win games??????

Why is it that you hate attacking football so much!

I'm really sorry guys. To the Carlton Football Club, Big Nick, the entire Talkingcarlton forum, anybody else who loves Denis.................I'M SORRY! The main reason i don't come to this forum anymore is because i got to much abuse for saying that denis is not the man to coach this club. I'm sorry is i piss people off here, but eneough is enough!

I love this club, and i love the players! More importantly, i believe in the players! But week after week after week they get their confidence destroyed because of Denis Pagan! I'm sick of it! SICK OF IT!

I am almost in tears here because i am just that frustrated!

Perfect example of what i'm talking about:-.................................
Wiggins, late in the 4th, decides to have some balls and runs with the football only to look up and notice that NOTHING - **NOTHING** is ahead of him. He is being chased and is loosing ground fast. He's gotta get rid of the ball now, or he gets caught. The only thing he can do is kick forward..........................which he does. And predictably, a crows player intercepts and there is a turn over!

I'm the first person to say that wiggens is not gonna make it at AFL level - but i'm on his side for this one! WHAT THE @#$%&! IS THE POOR KID SUPPOSED TO DO DENIS? What good is it to flood when your 60-70 points down with 8min to go! WHAT THE @#$%&! DO YOU EXPECT HIM TO DO!

GO AWAY! Seriously................@#$%&! OFF! I've had enough! For the club, for ots supporters, and most importantly....................FOR THE PLAYERS WHO'S CONFIDENCE AND CAREERS YOU CONTINUALLY DESTROY WEEK-AFTER WEEK- AFTER WEEK!

Post all your hatred comments towards me here:- I don't care anymore. Really i don't!

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no argument here.... he should leave. He has failed and doesn't deserve anymore time at the club....at this rate he will be the last carlton coach.

Yep time to go Denis is for no other reason than no one, not even yourself, believes anymore. The dream is over long live the nightmare!

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i read something the other day ... let the record speak for itself .... about a QUARTER of all games under pagan have been lost by more than 10 goals! Say no more.

Last weeks score:- 4.10 (34)

This weeks score:- 9.6 (60)

Vs Crows 18.16 (124)

Even if we add up BOTH last weeks and this weeks games.............We still wouldn't have won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is a sign of:-

a) We have No game plan going forward
b) a result of to much flooding
c) a coach that has no @#$%&! clue what he's doing
d) ALL OF THE ABOVE!

Got a secrect here for ya Denis..........................there are 15 other clubs out there that would kill to have a forward line consisting of Fevola/Whitnall/Kennedy/Lappin- why don't you try and @#$%&! use em'!

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Yeah I agree wholeheartedly.

Though there are also 15 other clubs with better midfields to get the ball to such a forward line.

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Congratulations CK95

i agree ... even if you are west ham scum ...

Got a secrect here for ya Denis..........................there are 15 other clubs out there that would kill to have a forward line consisting of Fevola/Whitnall/Kennedy/Lappin- why don't you try and F@%&#! use em'![/quote]

Even better again when Waite and Fisher are fit.

Is it Pagans fault that the players can't kick the footy and turn it over all the time.
Is it Pagan's fault that Scotland kicks the footy over Kouta's head at a kick in.
Is it Pagans fault Fev's goes the torp off the side of the boot straight to a crows player.
Is it Pagans fault players keep on kicking it out on the full, Nick Stevens included.
The list goes on and on.
The amount of turnovers today killed us, not Pagan.