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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:16 pm 
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A person I know, who works behind the scenes with Andrew Demetriou, has said, "a review would be made at the end of the year, and if Carlton were to finish bottom again this year with lower then 20 points, the AFL would give Carlton the priority picks and pay them a fraction of the debt they are in to help the famous Carlton Football Clubâ€

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 2:45 pm 
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[quote="rash"]A person I know, who works behind the scenes with Andrew Demetriou, has said, "a review would be made at the end of the year, and if Carlton were to finish bottom again this year with lower then 20 points, the AFL would give Carlton the priority picks and pay them a fraction of the debt they are in to help the famous Carlton Football Clubâ€


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Ointment.


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Ointment.


Me need some of the old snake charmers ointment im thinking orange


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The AFl will give us nothing.....

all its going to take is winning games. Once this mighty club starts to win games the financial plight will turn around

Why should the AFL give us priority picks and money the club should battle its own problems on its own and with out hand outs


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AFL's money always comes conditionally.

Ask Dr Faust about his deal with Demetrispew.

If it takes 2 more seasons of this to turn it round on and off-field, then I'll take it.

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is your source reliable rash?


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my source is reliable, but it seems hard to belive

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If the AFL were to give us a PP if we win less than 4, you would think they would have to let us & the other 15 teams know about it sooner rather than later.

It would be unfair to give it to us at the end of the year. I'D TAKE IT, but it would cause a massive uproar.

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ryan2000 wrote:
If the AFL were to give us a PP if we win less than 4, you would think they would have to let us & the other 15 teams know about it sooner rather than later.

It would be unfair to give it to us at the end of the year. I'D TAKE IT, but it would cause a massive uproar.


I don't know whether this is reliable or not but the whole reason the AFL changed the rule was to get the focus away from clubs tanking for the extra pick. So Ryan how smart do you think the AFL would look if come this week they announced Carlton is eligible for a priority pick if they win less than 4 games this year?


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ryan2000 wrote:
If the AFL were to give us a PP if we win less than 4, you would think they would have to let us & the other 15 teams know about it sooner rather than later.

It would be unfair to give it to us at the end of the year. I'D TAKE IT, but it would cause a massive uproar.


I don't know whether this is reliable or not but the whole reason the AFL changed the rule was to get the focus away from clubs tanking for the extra pick. So Ryan how smart do you think the AFL would look if come this week they announced Carlton is eligible for a priority pick if they win less than 4 games this year?


My point exactly, they would look quite stupid and it would create a big upror - Especially with Essendon*.

But we have (just a few weeks ago now) ask the AFL to consider giving us a PP (1st round) if we win 4 games or less. Now a few people, on here & even some rumours on radio (however they should be treated as just that - Rumours) are suggesting the AFL might give into our request and honour it.

Just saying, if they are gonna do it, which i doubt it anyways, they would probably wanna do it now or soon-ish rather than at the end of the season, don't you think?

But again, i really cannot see the AFL doing this.

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ryan2000 wrote:

It would be unfair to give it to us at the end of the year. I'D TAKE IT, but it would cause a massive uproar.


They're 'given' it to us at the end of the year before. They'll shift and justify pending their mood again.


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The whole reason why they changed the system was because they wanted to stop clubs tanking and supporters hoping their team would lose. What will happen if they announce now that we get a PP if we only win 2 more games this year?


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Blueworld - thank goodness someone else on here has a brain! Honestly...I doubt they'll give it to us - if they do it will be viewed as wiping the fine and punishment from a few years ago. If they do - they have only one course of action and that is to announce what they are doing at the end of the year - otherwise, we tank. Not that it matters because Essendon* will finish bottom anyway - Sheedy isn't that stupid.


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If the AFL were to give us a PP if we win less than 4, you would think they would have to let us & the other 15 teams know about it sooner rather than later


:lol: :lol: :lol: That's truly laughable it really is. What possible line of logic have you got for making that statement Ryan?

That makes no sense whatsoever. Why would the AFL have to tell anybody about it now? So other teams can start/stop tanking?

The only point in telling us we stand to get a PP at the end of the year if we win 4 or less games would be to give us a chance to tank.

It would make more sense for the AFL to tell us after the H&A season. They need to see just how bad we are, where we finish. In the aftermath they can decide just how bad we are and if we need special assistance. Telling us now gives us an incentive to tank.


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they would probably wanna do it now or soon-ish rather than at the end of the season, don't you think?


Why?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:11 am 
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Just cannot see the AFL giving us a priority pick at all. Remember they changed the criteria to 16 points from 20 points last year and me thinks our 18 points may have played some part in that.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:35 am 
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Or maybe they did it on purpose to look like they wouldn't do us any favours, but knew all along they'd reverse it at the end of 2006 if we were still sh!thouse, which we are. They can use the old 'It's clear Carlton need some assistance, I don't think anybody in football would disagree Carlton are in a real bad way' line.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:03 pm 
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Wishful thinking IMO speakers, just can't see it happening.

The other clubs are already causing an uproar on the financial help, can you imagine what they'd be like if the AFL just handed us a priority pick? And if Essendon* finished last, that'll be unacceptable for them.

Plus Adelaide and West Coast also considering they were just knocked back a month or so ago with their requests.


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Clutching at staws - amazing what comes up when you're desperate.

By doing this the AFL is admitting what most people thought and that is the penalties were far too harsh and they had no system to them at all - they punished the innocent players who were left to carry the load as well as the supporters yet the guilty walked away scott free.

Priority picks are just never going to happen :? .

The AFL would have waited until Carlton was clear of failure before changing the PP requirements if they were concerned about the old penalties being too severe.

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