Let's say the it's the end of the season..................Carlton finish 15th, Essendon* finish last for the first time in 73 years and with pick #1 which they will no doubt wanna use on the best player available (Gibbs, Seller, whoever).

However, the AFL decides that Carlton need another pick and give us a PP and we get first go at the best available talent the draft has to offer.

Roles reversed, if it were Carlton finishing last and the AFL did that to Essendon*......i'd be pissed off!

It would make more sense to tell us at the end of the year AFTER the home and away season, i aggre with you........but this is the AFL we're talking about mate, Sense has @#$%&! all to do with it.

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I ain't making a statement mate..................i'm just engaging in a 'friendly' discussion.

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- Aristotle

they could change the draft rule from 4 games to 4.5 games?

18 points can be argued as 4 wins. The fact that there is a draw in there is irrelevant. If the rule states "4 wins" or similar, the amount of points becomes irrelevat, surely. what if we got 3 wins and 4 draws? That's the same amount of points on the ladder as 5 wins, but it isn't 5 wins by any stretc.

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Absolutely KK. That's the key argument. There should be no issue that if we fail again we get the extra pick.

AFL Rule Interpretation Policy.


If a rule can be interpreted 2 ways and one of those ways results in a beneficial outcome to the Carlton Football Club - we meant the other way.

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That's not the point. Under the current rules it is feasible for the 15th placed team to get the PP and not the 16th placed team. And the whole idea about having PPs is to help clubs that are sh!t for consecutive years. I think that applies to us.

And Adelaide don't need Gibbs. Fancy the (potentially) Premiership side getting the #1 player under the FS Rule while Carlton sit there and dwindle in perpertual sh!tness. That'd be an even bigger joke surely.

The AFL have an opportunity to assist Carlton, because they need to clarify whether it is 16 points of 4 wins. They are different things because 4 wins implies draws don't come into calculations.

We'd get 1 & 3, Essendon* would get 2. It's always been like that. PP's first, then the bottom side. That would still apply if we had won just the 4 games last year or the AFL do allow us a PP.

DOne your lines yet?

are you able to say what your source is?

if you cant thats ok

cheers

are you able to say what your source is rash?

if you cant thats ok

cheers

i do belive carlton deserve to get the PP why? because i dont c why such a great club has to suffer from some [REDACTED] up president. him getting the boot is enough, not killing our future of this great club for many years. its way to harsh

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No i cant champ, or i wood have my head on da platter by tomm. sorry mate

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All this talk is ridiculous.

There is no way the AFL can give us a PP before round 1 this year. 16 points means 16 points and anyone who thinks they're gonna change it now is dreaming. The other 15 clubs would go ape-shit - it's fanciful.

What is disgraceful is that our board did not lobby hard AT THE TIME THE RULE WAS MADE, fot the threshold to be 18 points, or for 20 to be enough last year because the rule was not in place. Pathetic politiking.

That was the time to change things, we've missed the boat.

I don;t care who your source is, it is irrational to think it will change now

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simonverbeek Did you honestly think that our weak as water [can think of another liquid], constantly revolving board, would actually make any effort to push for the change?

No leadership and a deaf/mute President.

I got more excited listening to Ahmed Fahour talking about NOT joining the Board but stating his commitment to helping the club in any way that he could in his current role as CEO if nab.

So the PP redevelopment will be announced this week huh?? ....*waiting*....

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our club isnt arguing with the afl as much as they'd like to. we have to suck up to them with every rule they make and support them hoping that our good behaviour will be rewarded by the afl 10 years ago if there was a rule put in place to make a clash guernsey i dont think carlton would have done it we would have argued and protested and had our way but now we're in a different boat and the afl dictates the terms and we gotta go with everything they say