Carlton God wrote:
Anyone who doesn't want to tank and win four games or less is a fool. I find it hilarious that the same 'do gooder' people that didn't want to tank near the end of last year are now the ones raving about Murphy and Kennedy.
The return game against Essendon* this year should be the biggest tank in history, leave out Fevola, Whitnall, Stevens etc if necessary it will be impossible for the AFL to prove.
Speaking of those three, along with Waite, Carlton should grab their balls and trade them end of year, or at least two, we are losing by 10+ goals with them all playing as is now. This will ensure a less than four wins the following year as well and finally it will give us a quality group of youngsters coming through together, we don’t have that at present.
Not sure how we will get them but just as an example(may be spread over two drafts)
Fevola - 12,35
Whitnall - 25
Stevens - 20
Waite - 16
Would let us enter the 2006 draft with picks 1,12,17,25,32,35 which will give us six quality youngsters.
We then enter the 2007 draft with picks 1,2,16,18,20,34.
Anyone who thinks the current group of youngsters we have will be good enough to support Fevola, Whitnall and Stevens to win a premiership are kidding themselves.
It’s almost 5 years since Black Friday and the majority of you thought it would make the club stronger than ever before and it was perhaps the best thing for the club. Was it?
Do you want a team capable of winning a premiership or a team only possible of sneaking into the finals or if very lucky the top 4?
Do you want to be sitting here in 5 years time when these three have retired and be wishing we had of traded them?
Do you want to be sitting here in 5 years time saying how pointless it was finishing 6th to 12th in 2008,09,10?
The negative people among you will see this as a negative post, but it is in fact a positive post.
Carlton God
Futurist and Visionary
mmm.... I'd respect you more if you could have at least shown some knowledge on the subject matter.
In order to nab the 1st 2 picks of 2007 draft we would need to finish bottom with 4 or less wins both this year and next. Finishing with 4 wins or less this year would nab us a priority pick at the end of the first round. Something that you seemed to have 'overlooked' when listing our draft picks for the upcoming year at 1,12,17,25,32,35
As an aside though - it would require 3 spoons in 3 years - there is no chance of that happening. Membership would drop substantially - there is no way that the club could remain financially viable if we were to go down that route
If we nab the spoon this year and there is no clear plan (going for the spoon the subsequent year isnt a plan) then membership and attendances will drop at least another 10-15% (ie 25k members + lower crowds)
Assuming we survive that, finishing with a 3rd spoon in a row at the end of 2007, you would expect another 10-15% decline in memberships (22k) and crowds (for at least the 1st part of the year) regardless of what plan you try to sell to supporters.
Ignoring Pagans contract, that those seasons would probably account for an additional $3 and $5 million dollar cash loss when compared to this year (where we are projected to lose 1,5mill) for the respective seasons.
Without serious financial intervention
2006 - 1.5mill loss
2007 - 4.5mill loss
2006 - 6.5 mill loss
Cumulative 12.5mill + 7mill in current debt. ie we could begin the 2008 season (post your grand plan) with a debt of $20mill - and that doesnt take into account the expected decline in sponsorships and an expected increase in salary cap of around 10-15%.
Not only will we be financially crippled, with 3 spoons in a row we would be the laughin stock of the competition.
No thanks. I'd rather we have some self respect
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