That he might be, but even me, a proud South Australian, can see that Synbad is right. Bradley treated us with contempt quite often with his contract renegotiations, and for the most part iit was our on field success that excused, or hid this fact.

On field Bradley was all class. Off field he wasn't so good.

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Spot on Synbad & camelboy.

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Bradley was entitled to big money... its the money paid to players like allan and many of the others that wasnt deserving... corey mckernan is another...

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Anyways couldnt care about now!! Carlton lost a heartbreaker... AGAIN!!!

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You didn't think training away from the team when he was captain was a little bit petulant?

Considering bradley kept himself in tip top shape and was as fit as he was for all those years... he can do what he wants!!

And he did a top job as leader...

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An example to other players of training away from the team and holding out on the club until it caved aren't exactly gread team skills for mine.

Top player.

Top bloke, even.

Average leader of a team.

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We got mauled around the stoppages in the last quarter today.We handed them the game on a plate.This is the area we MUST rectify.Ratten showed at the Dees he can improve players.Get him back as quick as possible.

Craig Bradley.......magnificent player, but a germ to the CFC.Not real big on blokes that bite the hand that feads them.

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In regards to Ratts getting along with Pagan, This is what i have heard.

When Pagan came to the club he wanted everyone to hit the gym hard as he couldn't believe that we were so far behind in that regard.

Ratten refused saying that he had played his whole career like this with great results, this was who he was. Pagan kept pushing ratts to do weights so that he can strengthen his body, and in particular his shoulders as Ratts had problems with his left shoulder i think.

Then Ratts stuffed his shoulder big time. Pagan went right off (may have even called him afew nasty things) at him, telling him he let the club down big time.

That was the end of Brett Ratten.

I would love to see him back at the club, he is highly skilled and super competative. That's what we need.

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IN: Ratten
OUT: Liberatore

My take on a few of them is that they were spoilt pampered prima donnas.
The problem with Denis is he had few people skills ,, and seeing he went that road with them he didnt go all the way.

Thinking about re drafting Campo lost me.To me that showed it was all about himself and not the club.

Denis had no clue.... he has no clue how to manage people.. and he has no clue how to really get stuck in and turf them all out and start again completely from the bones.

Denis is about having an each way bet....

Not that his job was ever east.. the senior players didnt make it easy for him and they still dont.

When the game was in the balance last night the senior players went missing.

The senior players have been missing from this club for four years...
Dont try and redraft them because you think we will need them ... theyre NOT GOOD ENOUGH.!!!.. never were...

Ratten acted like the shop steward.. each time there was conflict between players and coach he would take side of the players... The prpblem is he was captain of this footy club and he was the link... he took sides and from that point it was the slippery slope to hell for the club.

Our senior players didnt give a @#$%&! about the club.. they might in their own little heads pretend they did... but if they really examined things it was all about themselves as individuals....

Spoilt.. pampered..handfed..with an overinflated opinion on how good they were...

Of course the board has been shit scared to make the calls on everyone just in case things turned bad...

Just a total lack of cohesion and professionalism on all levels..

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How was he a top leader????

Can you clarify ??

do you even know what leader means???

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Id make Harford skills coach.

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I think this played a role in his demise at the Blues...

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Ratten was one of a few senior players who shared his knowledge of the game with our emerging players. Time after time I would observe him talking to the youngster(s) during play or straight after the quarter time siren giving them some tips. He did this regularly and was a natural

By contrast one of my recollections of Bradley was remonstrating verbally with a very young Lance not to take a shot at goal and to pass it to him. Quite aggressive and confidence zapping from a so called leader to a rising star.

In the interests of historical accuracy we whould never lump these two Carlton Greats together. One played for himself the other cared about the Club and come across from my onbservations as a great teacher of the game.

Well he was a great leader in how he upheld himself and the work he done to ensure he would get the most out of himself and encouraged others to work hard at their game like he did...

Once again, many carlton supporters are pointing the blame at former carlton players when it was the selection committee and recruiting staff who are responsible for our decline....

How is a guy who has the fitness to be playing great footy at 38, encourage the others to work hard be looked at as biting the hand that feeds you....

Its just delusion from a bitter fan... People react to hurt and pain in different ways... Some go far enough to point the finger at club greats like Bradley and Ratten...

Personally, i'm appreciate at what they brought to the club and the success those players generated...

I really dont understand some of you people...

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i dont usually agree with you sinners but i would have to say that is the best call you have made.

another thing, did last nights game prove anything to you or any of you...... DENIS IS THE MASTER OF TANKING

Last night we witnessed an attacking brand of footy like what we seen round 1...... I have no doubt in the world he knows the capabaility of some but he knows how important it is to get some more quality kids into this side.

Next year we will see a different team run out, different game plan, attacking, accountable, contested, hard tough footy.

Sheeds is also the master of tanking, he aint willing to change his game plan and flood, why? cause they might win a game.

Just like Denis he is holding the boys back, not willing to go attacking cause we just might win and winning will cost us one of the best kid in the land.

Harford's a clown (literally). Why not go for some of the assistants at West Coast, or Adelaide, or Port etc. Just because someone has a Carlton connection doesn't necessarily mean they are the best available, although I do rate Rats highly.

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I hope it's him showing great character and not him putting his name up when the members/media are starting to get in Pagan's back..

I'd like to see him as an assistant, he did well at Melbourne

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Rats you rate... Harford is a clown....

Can i ask you a question??.. or two???

Why do you rate Ratts?.. what have you seen from him that makes you rate him?
How is Harf a clown???
Why would an assistant coach leave an organisation like WC to come to Carlton???

:shaking my head at a tripper emoticon:

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