Carlton manages to beat Essendon*, Kangaroos and Hawthorn this year which means we lose the priority pick. People that think that any of those wins will be of more benefit to the club/players than a priority pick at the end of the season have rocks in there heads!!

Give me 3 picks in the top 20 of the superdraft any day.

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I want as many picks as we can possibly get in the 1st & 2nd rounds of the draft this year but in the end.... 'che sera sera'

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There's so much I could say...

Ok let me ask you again.. and its mathematics ok?
The chances of picking more talent comes earlier in the draft than later...

By getting 3 picks in the top 20 must be better than getting 2 picks in the top 20.

When youre shit you must bring in as much raw talent as possible right??

Can anyone explain to me what is hard about that logic?
cos to me its pretty basic.

some of you if born a few hundred years ago wouldnt have bothered developing the wheel cos you were born with legs...

you wouldnt cook your food cos you can eat it raw...

you wouldnt build a structure to sleep in because if you looked around for a while (sometimes a very long while) youd find a cave...


Its called foresight.

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Who would you prefer Hodge or Judd, Brennan (Haw) or Simmo, Dal Santo or Molan. #1 pick guarantees nothing.

I'm sure Murphy will be a great player for us but I don't necessarily think he will be the best of the entire 05 draft. JK could easily become that superstar, or even Mitch Clarke - who knows.

We go out to win when possible and let the draft fall where it may. If we worry about finishing last to get the #1 pick who turns out to be Des Headland or whoever that Richmand bloke was .

I honestly believe Russell will become one of the most marketable AFL players in the comp in the next 3 or 4 years and he was pick 9.

As Denis says "We're in the business of winning"

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Definitely a walker...

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By the way if we were in the business of winning like Denis says...

.. wed be out of business .. so i wouldnt listen to much stupidity ... because more people would be interested in how Walker,Murph and Kennedy around Carlton.. (products of not winning)...

Than Mott Kenna Harf Johnson Longmuir Saddington Teaguey Diggers etc (Products of Denis "business of winning theory"

Judging by what we have been doing... if we ever get out of this its pure accident and anything resembling a plan is sheer coincidental.

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foresight only works in hindsight

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

What I understand is that every year the same old line about top picks being what is required to turn this club around is thrown out by people like you. Every year you have been saying the same shit, while in the meantime you have no alternative to stopping the rot that has set in due to this mentality. How are you going to increase our membership next year after another spoon? and more importantly getting the club back into the black? Sure as hell Telstra Dome ain't the answer.

But I forget the AFL can always bail us out.

The more and more you whinge and whin about us spending more time last on the ladder the deeper the shit is being shoveled on our grave while you and others see a very very very long long long light at the end of the tunnel and hold your breath for the kids to come good.

I hope you can muster all the support you can and get our membership/club and sponsers back over the next few years while we are being pathetic sailor boy, because I have a feeling you will need a miracle to get our people back with the $$$$.

As for the personal jibes ... sooner or later you will grow up or maybe just die a bitter old man.

PS. How are your Saints going?

Currently the business of winning for our club is in fact losing. 16 points or under in 2006 is the business of winning, do this and we get a significant advantage against most of our rivals.

My Saints??
they had a window of opportunity.. How are the Blues going you should be asking yourself Surrey.
Hows your non membership going???

See why youre not the smartest guy is that you continually dont get it.

Like someone that just puts his hand in the fire each day not knowing whats about to happen.

What you dont get is just cos you want to win doesnt mean you can.

But by winning an extra game by playing SADDINGTON AND LONGMUIRE/CHAMBERS .. you cost yourself wins.

See.. you have to be clever in life and sometimes you do have to take a step back to take 2 steps forwaRD.

and a clever leader understands tactical retreat...

Its been used for thousands of years to win a war and not a battle.

But hey... im teaching you to suck eggs and you cant grasp it....

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By the way.. if we get two picks in the top 25 so do another nine clubs so where is the advantage ???

We need EVERY ADVANTAGE where were at...

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I didn't realise I didn't have a membership Sailorman.
But then you like to throw these defenses in when you are cornered, so I will just ignore you as per normal, life is just so much more relaxing when I do that.

By the way Synbad ... DO YOU HAVE A MEMBERSHIP?

re: Saints....recruited poorly after initially picking up some of the best kids....Ackland, Fiora, McGough etc were not the right way to top up a talented list, losing Black and Penny and then you add some terrible bad luck with Kosi being constantly injured, add a ordinary coach in Thomas and thats why i think they have failed to deliver whats expected...

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What ever will be will be guys. It's called Fate. We arguing is not going to change anything.

There are good arguments on both sides of winning and losing in particular this year, and as I said before I support Carlton no matter what. I still believe we have some very good kids, obviously depending on whether they come through and become what they should be.

We will get good picks regardless of whats happening if we pick well. We will definetely get early picks as we are not capable of winning may games anyway.

But unfortunately, I think Essendon* and North Melbourne will not want to win many more either, and someone has to win, so we may have no choice because we are much much better than both those teams.

Don't know Elwood. I think a certain coach and club culture/history has worked and was always going to work against them also.

A winning mentality and culture is paramount in successful sides and that is the reason majority of clubs recruit experience/successful coaches to take their kids to their next step. People who know what it takes. We had that throughout our club/history but alas over the last few years I have a feeling we have not only lost the mentality and culture and I am in grave fear we might not get it back. Time will tell and hopefully I will be proven wrong with this point. Hopefully because it will kill me more if it is the case.

The fastest way to the top is to draft & develop the best elite talent available.

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There's so much I could say...

Did 10 wins in 2004 develop a winning culture

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Anyone that knows me knows i have a membership.
Youre the one that said you wouldnt.

And yes Surrey.. you cornered me in that round space in your head...

You always have the capability of cornering me... Youre like a Grandmaster chess player without the chessboard and pieces.

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