I'm in the "Kouta retire now" camp.

While I acknowledge that his knee injuries have had a fair say in his current plight, I strongly believe he should retire and let the next generation of future Carlton stars like Bentick, Blackwell and Russell get more games under their belt to help further their development.

During the week, it was reported that Lance would be made captain until Kouta came back. Some disagree with it, others like the decision. Personally, I'm not fussed. Hasn't put a foot wrong this year and is staring down the barrel of his first B+F and a likely AA selection at CHB. Some wanted Stevens to replace Kouta for the time that he is absent with injury.

Let's face it, when Kouta does retire these two will be at the top of the list to be the next captain.

So how does the club determine who is the better option?

I think the best way to do it would be for Kouta to come out and retire effective immeadiately. With half the season gone already, I think they should allow Stevens and Lance to have a go at being the captain for the next half of the season. Lance could captain the next 5 weeks, while Stevo could do the next 6 or vice versa.

Denis and Smorgo should sit down and sort out a list of criteria to work with to pick a captain. But essentially, they should be looking at how Stevens and Whitnall thrive under the pressure of being captain. At the end of the year, Denis and Smorgo should then determine who has handled themselves in the best possible manner and then hand over the captaincy to the bloke who performs the best.

Your thoughts?

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I say let the players decide who they want to be captain.

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Should be a rotating captaincy for a year or so.

There is no REAL candidate that can do it alone anyway.

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The playing list unfortuanetly is to young to decide I do like the idea of given Lance and Stevo ago later might also want to try Fevola unlikely but has had a great year like Lance.

The football department (FD) should decide who's the next captain. Smorgan & the board should simply ratify the FD's recommendation. Could you imagine Leigh Matthews consulting the Brisbane board prior to deciding upon the next captain? No - he decides who'll captain the club & he'll tell the President & board of his decision. That's half the problem for teams down the bottom, so much inferred uncertainty in relation to the FD's primary role to "run' the football side of the club! "Smorgo" must not be involved in the initial decision, now matter how much uncertainty there is in relation to Pagan's ability to turn this football team around. Either Pagan is the future coach & makes these types of decisions OR he resigns or is sacked. In the mean-time, please don't suggest that the board meddle with FD related decisons. Next you'll be suggesting "Smorgo" sits in on the selection committee.

run a poll on TC, that'd be the best way

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Well whoever decides it, Luca, should, I believe, use this method.

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Why not???Michael Malouf is our CEO and he is on the MC.
Grant Williams is a nice guy but his knowledge of footy (not admin ) is pretty limited and he is on it...
Sticks is on the board and on the MC.. so he cant even grade his own performance without a conflict of interest.

So whats wrong with Graeme Smorgon on the MC too????

Look... i wanna be on the MC too.. everyone else with no qualifications is...

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The club should already know who its leaders are. I don’t see the need to get players to go head to head in a rotating captaincy role to determine who is better for the long term position. Furthermore, IMHO, the on going dual/rotating captaincy role employed at other clubs is a wank & devalues the position.

Lance is the man to lead us forward. Go get ‘em big boy

Just give it to Marc Murphy and be done.

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Seriously you should be wearing different colors or the very least go over to saintsational, you'll fit in well there.

Im in a simlar position PJ in that im not overly fussed, i think in the back of my head i know that Murph will be the one leading us to the promised land beyond the current era. For the time being im happy with Lance.

The big question for me is will giving Stevo the captaincy have a positive impact on his playing style? Granted he's no Voss, but will the captaincy toughen him up and turn him into an on field leader, muster a bit of inspiration on the field.

If yes - give him the honour.

Only way to find out is probably to rotate it the rest of the year.

Surrey the world has changed.
Carlton has changed.
When we go for a shit these days we dont have to dig a hole in the ground...things change.. you cant do the same things forever...


We just tried a captain that didnt work.
We have had a few captains that were not leadership since Sticks.

What we are lacking is not a captain... its leadership.

We need to instill a sense of responsibility across the playing group.

And the Swans won a flag doing exactly that......

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No, surely a petition would work better.





I think having a "captaincy group" would work. We don't have anyone who could shoulder the burden themselves. Fev, Stevo and Lance's good form would be flushed right down the toilet if one of them got the captaincy.

So we have a group of Lance, Fev, Stevo, Lappin (maybe), and each becomes responsible for mentoring younger players and taking control of their "patch" on the field. And maybe have a few players below them to help that mentoring role with the young'uns and rookies.

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i'd say a non-binding vote is the way to go.

worked for princes park

Agree.....

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I think we should go without a captain for a year. There aren't any stand-out candidates so why choose one?

Let the players know that the position's up for grabs and that anyone on the list can earn it for 2008 based on their on and off-field performance in 2007. Let a different supporter toss the coin each week in 2007.

At worst it'll be an honest reflection of our leadership situation for 2007. At best a dozen players will make their mark as leaders and we'll have a tough time choosing at the end of next year for the right reasons (unlike now).

It'll also show the football world we're capable of thinking abstractly (that's "outside the square" for all you little lingua-mashers).

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Problem with proposing a rotation policy for the captaincy is that Denis has said on many occassions at press interviews that he believes there should be only one captain.

For a rotational captain proposal to be endorsed, at least DP will have a big say in it.

I believe if a rotational policy proposal was put up, I would get the playing groups' buy in. After all, they have to live and put up with it on and off the field.

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

I'm all for a rotating captaincy, but I think we should think outside the square and get a bit proactive. Get with the times so to speak. Put the position up for grabs each week, and the supporter who writes the most convincing post of the week should get the job.

There is absolutely no comparison between Whitnall and Stevens.

One is a natural leader, is far far far more consistant in his performances and is also our best player.

Lance should be full time captain and even though Stevens is a good player he is nowhere near captaincy material.