thompso will kill us if Livo is at FB.. and he will kill us if T Bird is at FB.... but by having Livo in the side.. and not Saddington ... or Teague.. or just about anyone else Pagan hatches up to rob Livo from playing FB...Livo releases T Bird to play a more creative role.

And Lance for that matter cos he has to take the fourth forward and not the third.... .........

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Ok assuming its Fev..l who to and for what????

See.,.. the shit teams wont trade their EARLY oicks.. and the good teams have picks 13/14 on.. so what would we trade our ONLY marketable commodity for????

And only A grade footballer.

And only goal kicker....

Just to hold onto Lance....

Spit it out.. give me a realistic scenario.... and it better be a rip snorter cos the club will be left with a gaping hole....

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Yes! .... and he may even get time to learn and 'develop'. Presti 'used' to take the hit every week for the Pies just so Clement didn't have to. Now Presti is reliable and Clement is AA. We just hope that Lance and Lappin fix everything. Imagine if Livo had 3 full years at FB! We've [REDACTED] him over that much that Watt has overtaken him!

Yep.. blame the recruiters!

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Murph
Carrazzo
Blackwell
Russell
Fevola would have kicked 10 if he could move in the 2nd half
Walks
De Luca

and

Simon Wiggins and his continued great form.

our 3rd quarter generally was super, with fast attacking football giving our kids the confidence to take the game on and give our forwards a chance

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They dont have any faith in him but he isnt any worse than anyone else.

So go figure why he doesnt get the games.

Just reallllllllllllllllllllllllly pissssssssssssssssssesssssssssss me off!!!

Our defence always looks better OVERALL with Livo out there... im not talking about FB spot in particular.

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we need two top defenders. Livo is never going to be one of them so lose a few games and pick the draft apart. isn;' that what yoiu all advocate? or should we play Livo, maybe beat Roos but realy still end up 2 defenders short?

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mate dont get hissy like an old woman at me just cos we lost again...

I give solutions ... get all hissy at the MC and the coaches or something.. theyre the ones without the answers....

I know youre disapointed dannyboy... but fair dinkum!!!...

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I am happy. The lads are developing (remember when that was the big word around here) slowly assuming the main roles within the team. Like I hoped. But still people here bag and bag and bag and bag and bag and bag

But of course it is easy, we all know how far back we ae coming from - even you know that - so yes, there are still holes that hurt, thats why we have to keep drafting well I thought

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There were stages tonight (3rd qtr) where the 'kids' pushed the senior players aside and ripped the game open... I nearly chubbed up!

Bannister... finally used (for more than 5 mins) in a position he has been 'groomed' for. Looked very comfortable sweeping across half back.

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you will notice .. i never bag a kid... i have faith in kids cos u dont know what youre getting.,, its all untapped.

Its the others that get up my goat...

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can't wait til they are no longer kids

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My first 'real' post.

Sorry Synbad, but you don't have solutions - you have ideas and opinions (which are welcomed by many here), but they are not necessarily solutions.

The MC doesn't have all the answers either, but surely you can see that we are on the right path. Murphy / Blackwell / Kennedy / Russell / Simpson / Carazzo etc etc are all showing glimpses (except Murphy who is already playing at a consistently high level).

You yourself said in another thread that our kids are better than North's. Who's responsible for that? Recruiters? Coaching staff?...or you?

Maybe the MC and coaching staff have taken the right approach - develop the kids slowly and carefully. I for one, am confident that success is on its way.

We all get frustrated at losing, and some of the decisions that are made. We all have players that we believe aren't up to it that get played, and others that we believe need more opportunity. But for Christ's sake, this continual bagging of the coaching staff and the MC and claims that we have the answers is just bull****! If some of the posters on this site actually new half as much as they claim, they'd be coaching some kind of unbeatable AFL super team by now.

That is all.

The Pigeon on the ground,who was definitely playing for us, he had a great game on that wing,the star of the day, Murphy did well as usual,my god, f**k we actually picked a good kid in the draft, how did that happen?
I thought we had rich no talent hacks who have no clue when selecting draft picks.

Betts,Blackwell and Fevola played well and some others while the rest can go stuff it,no names,they know who they are they can go and drop the soap after the game, bunch of pansys,really no excuse losing to the weakest club.

I forgive them for the eagles,but not a poor team like the roos or Essendon*.

Watching the replay last night I thought about our midfield, but someone else brought it up and I felt like I'd be copying.

Watching the game again this morning, I can't help but be enthused.

Stevens is always in there, but getting a go were Murphy, Blackwell, Bentick, Russell. It was being rotated with some promising young guys.

Bentick was exceptional at getting the ball in the hard clinches in the centre. He definitely looks like a god in and under centreman. It got me quite enthralled.

Young kids were fantastic
Murphy is a special player. not long before he is captain of the club
Blackwell coming along nicely. Looked a really good AFL player last night. Great kick of the footy
Fevola was awesome
Carazzo was very good
Stevens showed great leadership in that 3rd quarter. He should be captain and not Whitnall
Bannister was pretty good. How he hasn't been getting a game but yet mcgrath and teague do is baffling.
We lost a meaningless game

I agree with everything said about Murphy, AB, Carrots, etc.

Carrots' disposal has been improving.

Fev played strong.

Eddie Betts was everywhere. My mate said last night: "How many of him do you have? How much does that little bugger run?"

DeLuca played hard, took at least 4 one-grabbers (those gloves!!!), stood up when he was needed.

Slight tangent: Another positive was Harvey staging for a free in the 2nd (3rd?), stopping as if the free had been paid, and the umps let it go because it was that obvious.

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Agree with the focus on the kids. Murphy, Simpson, Betts, Carrazzo.

Walker was only average last night but has been better this year. We know what he's capable of and given the amount of ball that went into our backline Tex couldn't play as offensively as he would have liked.

Blackwell showed a fair bit too I thought, nice goal with poise through traffic and good skills to bend it back.

McGrath got thrashed and Teague was playing out of his weight division. I don't rate the North talls all that much. If they were that good, then they'd be a lot higher on the ladder because Hale is 200cm, Petrie 197cm Thompson 196cm, Chad Jones 196cm - and all of them mobile. Why wasn't McLaren used as a KP defender against Petrie or Hale and instead we persisted with Teague? Bewildering...

At least that meant we lost the game

8 goal burst in the 3rd quarter shows the kids that they can do it and all they have to do is produce it over 4 quarters. There were very few turnovers in the 3rd quarter and we would have scored at least 5 goals against a top 8 team in that quarter. Pity about the last...we didn't run, we didn't create.

Teague and McGrath look gone as AFL players. McGrath has lost a yard of pace since last year. Teague's never been quick but is now a liability.

Bannister was good I thought and his disposal is pretty good.

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Yep, for me it's ALL about the u/23 age group.
Good to see they're getting more game time to learn the ropes on the job.
Blackers looked terrific I thought.
AB worked liked a trojan as usual. With more experience he'll hopefully gain more awareness and not get caught as much as he will never be a speedster midfielder.
Good to see Pagan (wake up &) put Carrots in the play upfield where he works very smoothly. Kicked a nice setshot goal from 45m as well.

If we can keep our young blokes off the injury list LOOK OUT!

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Tex played well - how many did Grant kick after Tex went on him? Problem was (and why Denis avoided it for as long as he could) we missed his run when he went deep.

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i was looking through the afl record and our best 3rd quarter score at telstra dome was 40 points against the ducks last year and we bettered that by 10 points last night we had 8.2.50 the premiership quarter is back!!