I can't agree with you on this, Synbad.

IMO Livo has had MORE THAN ENOUGH time to cement his spot as the no.1 fullback for this club.

Maybe being blooded as fullback whilst Carlton is at the lowest ebb in its history - and having the ball constantly being pumped to his man on a string - hasn't helped his development. I'd be keen for the MC to persist with him if he has showed any sort of improvement and potential in his time at the club, but for mine he has showed neither.

Being dropped in recent games doesn't bode well for the bloke i'm afraid.

I'm with Keogh....Bannister has improved and doesnt deserve the axe.
Dominates at VFL level and played a very nice game vs the Roos , his once dodgy disposal has improved and his marking is a sure as most who play down back for us. I didnt think he deserved to be dropped last time he was sent back to the Bullants and am a bit sick of him being the fall guy every time we lose. ...one thing he does do is run with the footy and try and create unlike Teague for example is just a mark and kick player...

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And Deluca has? dont make me laugh!!!

Ooops, sorry, youre a clown.....

one from left field - bentick?

Similar to blackwell/murphy/carazzo, suspect disposal and not overly quick. If the club starts running out of players to cull due to contracts (deluca, teague?, etc) then he might have to make way - particularly if we manage to nab extra draft picks which can be utilised on midfielders.

Persoanlly my list atm would be
longmuir (run out of opportunities)
chambers (done nothing)
teague (slow)
kouta (retire)
mcgrath (dont think he is good enough)
french (retire)
sporn (doesnt look like making it unfortunately)
de luca (contracted unfortunately)
davies (doesnt sound as if he is recovering from injury that well)

edit: given the option I'd lose saddington as well though I imagine he will get another year

pretty much agree with your list 4thchicken with prob the addition of Livo who i believe is one we just cut our losses and accept that he is one top 5 pick that hasnt worked only reason he prob survived so long if Livo had been pcik 30 - 40 he would have been there as long as he has.

Prob in your list in place of Deluca if he is still contracted with Livo
other than that your list is pretty close to the mark

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I'm not really understanding all the O'hAilpin hate going on. Geez some of you people are impatient. It's not as if we're struggling to find players to delist.

Listed:

Longmuir
Bannister
Chambers
Sporn
Teague
Kouta
Davies
Livingston
Prendergast

Rookies:

Smith
Batson

Promote:

Flint
Jackson

Leaves 6 picks in National (No Trades) plus 1 Pre-Season and besides Aiskae a full complement of Rookies to choose.

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Thats so true
He is still very keen and doesnt deserve to be delisted

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MJONC,
Agree with most of your post but Smith and Batson have to be either promoted or delisted as this is their 2nd year on the rookie list. Probably both delisted.

I think Lappin is starting to struggle and I think he should retire at season's end. Bryan is a listed player who would have to be included in any delistings. Despite getting smashed in the ruck and down the spine the MC have declared their hand and DelLuca is preferred and Bryan has not played a game. Unlike Carlos it would appear that he doesn't have the desire apparently to make the sacfrifices required and given the list size we can only keep one long term project player and at present our project player is Carlos.

Agree on promoting Jackson but not sure about Flint.

Isn't Saddington still paid by the Swans and I think has another year on his contract? Can we delist him and get Swans to pay him out?

Starting to struggle already after wanting a 3 year contract. Can't see him retiring this year.

Should have been rested after the shoulder injury IMO.

What is the maximun allowed to be axed by a club?? we need to axe at least 12 players most of the one's mentioned above. Most likely the club will only axe half that due to contracts.

There is limit bb8 of 38 listed players for every club.

If we axe 8 players and are left with 30, we need to make up the 8 player shortfall in the national draft, pre-season draft and rookie draft.

If we axe, 12 players but have no way of replacing them all in the abovementioned drafts, then we are going to be smacked by the AFL.

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I don't think there's a maximum but you need to retain a bit of experience or do we want to go back to picking up recycled players?

i think we've learnt from that and we have to have a strict policy on picking up only very young players we should play real hard at this year's trade week and try to get as many early draft picks as we can, if that means giving up players like lappin or french then so be it it'll do us good for the future

This is exactly right. There's no point getting rid of fringe players just to recruit more from the tail end of the 2006 draft. Sure, clear out the dead wood (6-8) but any more means more 2 year minimum contracts which restricts us in the 2007 draft.

prenda, Sporn, Chambers, Longmuir, Bryan plus a few rookies but you have to keep Deluca and Wiggles because they just can't be replaced in the short term and if youy did, the chances are you'd end up with carbon copies.

We've got great young kids and some handy experience - let's just stick to the current plan.

great point

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I'm sure all clubs will want young players. Can't see anyone wanting to pick up 30 year olds. I doubt either will be around more than another season (if that).

no what about teams like adelaide, st kilda and west coast who are pushing for a premiership i'm sure picking up teenagers isnt going to help them win a premiership but if they pick up someone like akermanis that could help them.

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