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Our last few games have been described as the worst footballing spectacle that most experts have seen with more skill errors and clangers than anyone can imagine .


Must have missed the last few games because we have played okay. Grant you the game against the Lions was nothing to write home about but the Roos and Weagles were very good [at least for where we are at].

You must be talking about Essendon*.

The game against the Cats will be an interesting one - not sure who can nullify Ablett [the short one] as he always gives us a hard time - perhaps Tex. The taller Ablett should be okay for T-Bird or Livo with whoever doesn't get Ablett to get Kingsley.

Carlos to take Ottons or King when one is resting with Red roaming in the backline.

The midfield is where the game is going to be won in which case we may need Jackson to be elevated from the rookie list.

I hate playing Geelong.


I agree with everything you said there DUC - accept the second last sentance. I'm intrigued to know how a rookie listed player can come in and break the game apart. Me thinks a little too many romance chocolates for lunch :wink: . But I hope you're right.


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Did you watch the last couple of games TBB - did you see how close we come to winning - did you see the skills on display as a Carlton supporter you would have to be happy :roll: :roll:


We actually have been close to winning, the skills have been better than earlier this season. Since the home truths session Pagan has the team playing much better and I believe the skills have picked up as a result of being allowed to play a style of gmae they're more comfortable with.

That wasn't my point though.

Do you enjoy sounding like a broken down record?

You know the more you make the same point over and over and over and over again the less value it adds, until its adding nothing at all.


No more of a broken record than those who keep saying he has a plan and he is developing our future .

What skills are you talking about

The skill of bringing the ball out from a point 23 times plus 3 out bound on the full and only managing 3 shots on goal .

The skill of one of our leadership group dropping a chest mark and then later ducking his head

the skill of our number 2 draft pick having 7 turnovers and missing everything from 30 metre

The Skill of our best goal sneek missing from 25 out

the skill of watching Lance chase bradshaw around for three quarters

The skill of watching Scotland lose possession the ball three times straight the the lions players resulting in a goal .

The skills of the last two games in particular have been terrible I admit they were better in the West Coast game .

I would say if it wasn't for one of our least skillfull players in Thorton our results would have been a lot worse

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If we won, we WOULD start some serious stuff down in catland.


yes well over the last few years we have made a habit of getting coaches sacked. gary ayres was one for sure after fevvvy kikd 7 to win at AAMI, and im not sure but i think peter schwab, danny frawley and possibly peter rohde coached their last games against carlton, im not so sure about peter rohde.

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I agree with everything you said there DUC - accept the second last sentance. I'm intrigued to know how a rookie listed player can come in and break the game apart. Me thinks a little too many romance chocolates for lunch . But I hope you're right.


Hey Duke, it wasn't so much that Jackson would break the game apart but that the midfield is where the game will be won [as is case with pretty much all games]. So replace our injured midfielder in Murphy with another midfielder in Jackson.

I lurve the romance chocolates - they are all that I eat! You can never have too much romance!

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Our last few games have been described as the worst footballing spectacle that most experts have seen with more skill errors and clangers than anyone can imagine .


Our last few games have been against West Coast, Kangas and the Lions.


Yeah - and the West Coast & Kangas games have been two of the more entertaining games i've seen all year!

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After being the ABC guy at the Crows v Geelong game Aussie Jones reckons we'd be $1.10 favourites the Cats were so bad last week. That was his claim anyway.

Like the mother of the fat kid in the primary school 400m I still reckon we can win. Take away our hope and unfailing support and what do we have left?!

GO BLUES!!!

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The Fullback kicks to the back pocket he looks up then kicks back to the fullback - who then kicks it to the other back pocket who looks ahead and then kicks it to the centre half back who goes back to the full back who then kicks to the back pocket who then switches play to the opposite half back who in turn kicks back to the full back who sees a player loose on the half back - the half back goes for a run looks up then turns back and kicks it to the wing the wing charges forward kicks ............ turnover ...ball flys to opposition forward then its either a centre bounce or repeat above .


I'm happy are you . You would have to be happy look at all those possessions their racking up - dont practice skills much at training might as well do it during the game .

Campo would have loved this stuff he would be getting a 1000 possys a game .

Our last few games have been described as the worst footballing spectacle that most experts have seen with more skill errors and clangers than anyone can imagine . But I'm happy we are moving forward we are developing in a few year time we will be challegeing for a spot in the eight .

Did you watch the last couple of games TBB - did you see how close we come to winning - did you see the skills on display as a Carlton supporter you would have to be happy :roll: :roll:


What is the point of all that other than to rack up possessions? No wonder Scotland is 3rd in the AFL. Then it gets turned over when we eventually decide to kick it forward as by then everyone is manned up and we have to kick to a contest. Why do other teams move the ball from end to end so much quicker?


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camelboy wrote:
After being the ABC guy at the Crows v Geelong game Aussie Jones reckons we'd be $1.10 favourites the Cats were so bad last week. That was his claim anyway.

Like the mother of the fat kid in the primary school 400m I still reckon we can win. Take away our hope and unfailing support and what do we have left?!

GO BLUES!!!


They won't be as bad as that this week.


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If we won, we WOULD start some serious stuff down in catland.


yes well over the last few years we have made a habit of getting coaches sacked. gary ayres was one for sure after fevvvy kikd 7 to win at AAMI, and im not sure but i think peter schwab, danny frawley and possibly peter rohde coached their last games against carlton, im not so sure about peter rohde.


Terry Wallace did rd 21, 2002.

Also John Northey (Lions) in 1998.

Frawley was mid 2004 shortly after we beat them.

Not sure about Schwab or Rohde.


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After being the ABC guy at the Crows v Geelong game Aussie Jones reckons we'd be $1.10 favourites the Cats were so bad last week. That was his claim anyway.

Like the mother of the fat kid in the primary school 400m I still reckon we can win. Take away our hope and unfailing support and what do we have left?!

GO BLUES!!!


Don't get me wrong.............................

If Murphy was playing, plus lappin, plus Waite, plus Fish, plus Kouta plus a fully fit Fev i've got 100% confidence in a complete ass whooping of the Cats.

Take those players out of the equation and, well roles are pretty much reversed aren't they.

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true_blue24 wrote:
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If we won, we WOULD start some serious stuff down in catland.


yes well over the last few years we have made a habit of getting coaches sacked. gary ayres was one for sure after fevvvy kikd 7 to win at AAMI, and im not sure but i think peter schwab, danny frawley and possibly peter rohde coached their last games against carlton, im not so sure about peter rohde.


Agree with your point about coaches. After all - there is nothing more humiliating than losing to Carlton.

The only way we can minimise it to a within a 30 point loss is to play attacking football. IE After a mark is taken A RUNNER HAS to be alongside for the handpass and play on footy.


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tap in 79 wrote:
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If we won, we WOULD start some serious stuff down in catland.


yes well over the last few years we have made a habit of getting coaches sacked. gary ayres was one for sure after fevvvy kikd 7 to win at AAMI, and im not sure but i think peter schwab, danny frawley and possibly peter rohde coached their last games against carlton, im not so sure about peter rohde.


Agree with your point about coaches. After all - there is nothing more humiliating than losing to Carlton.

The only way we can minimise it to a within a 30 point loss is to play attacking football. IE After a mark is taken A RUNNER HAS to be alongside for the handpass and play on footy.


Bring back Campo! Had to laugh when I heard an Essendon* supporter whinge that he runs past looking for the handball ....ALL the time..I said., "well that's what you pay him for"

Cats are playing injured too...Our kids should back themselves in...that's all. Don't care if we lose, I want to see run and carry and long kicking to the advantage side of our players...plenty of game time fo S'OhA, Russell and maybe even some others (although we pronbably won't have a choice!)

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No 100 point thrashings this week unless we play really shit because the cats are ordinary and the 100 odd point thrashing last week will actually deflate them rather than firing them up.Contain Ablett and Chapman and we are a real chance.


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Lappin should be right to play.


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It's listed in the Paper today that while Bomber has the option to bring up to 7 senior listed playes back from inujury, he may choose to rest them and play a youth side.

If that's the case, i can't see a problem with promoting 2 rookies for the game.

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Jackson
Flint

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Lappin

What's the worst that can happen?????

We're already looking down the barrel of a possible 100+ point thrasing. If that is the case, i'd rather it be a team of kids rather than a team of Chambers / Sporn / Prenda / Livo & others who are not a part of our future!

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you have to be the most negative poster on here.

show me evidence why we are going to lose by 100+ points

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ryan2000 wrote:
It's listed in the Paper today that while Bomber has the option to bring up to 7 senior listed playes back from inujury, he may choose to rest them and play a youth side.

If that's the case, i can't see a problem with promoting 2 rookies for the game.

In:-
Jackson
Flint

Out:-
Murphy (Damn you God!!!)
Lappin

What's the worst that can happen?????

We're already looking down the barrel of a possible 100+ point thrasing. If that is the case, i'd rather it be a team of kids rather than a team of Chambers / Sporn / Prenda / Livo & others who are not a part of our future!


Lappin should be right to play. Pagan has said rookies aren't ready to be promoted yet.


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you have to be the most negative poster on here.

show me evidence why we are going to lose by 100+ points


I'm saying that a under-performing Geelong + the increasing preasure on Bomber Thompson's job + a Injury riddled Carlton side with 4 key players out plus at least 2 key players under an injury cloud + a team that has come off a 92 point loss last week who now has the dreaded 'SOMETHING TO PROOVE' outlook that so often we seem to have the honour off = a very high chance that we could get thumped.

And if you go into this game thinking otherwise then you will get thumped.

But, if you address it now and realise that this is the goal and inspiration that Geelong will use going into this game well, then you can fix the problem.

I don't see that as being Negative thanks very much........................i see that as problem solving and being aware!

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BlueWorld wrote:
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It's listed in the Paper today that while Bomber has the option to bring up to 7 senior listed playes back from inujury, he may choose to rest them and play a youth side.

If that's the case, i can't see a problem with promoting 2 rookies for the game.

In:-
Jackson
Flint

Out:-
Murphy (Damn you God!!!)
Lappin

What's the worst that can happen?????

We're already looking down the barrel of a possible 100+ point thrasing. If that is the case, i'd rather it be a team of kids rather than a team of Chambers / Sporn / Prenda / Livo & others who are not a part of our future!


Lappin should be right to play. Pagan has said rookies aren't ready to be promoted yet.


Lappin may play, but i'm just saying that he's unfit. As is Fevola.

Pagan has said it's a possibility, which makes me think that he will!

Remember he said that it's not such a great idea to play the kids and then that very week he brought in three of them incl. Blackwell & Kennedy!!!!

Could be a tactic Pagan is using............could be nothing at all.

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Lappin should be right to play.


hmm, as right as Fevola was last week? I think skinny could do with a rest for a week.

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