http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,19743490-23211,00.html

What we all probably knew anyway.

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PROMOTE A ROOKIE!

They have to promote a rookie now even 2 in Smith and Jackson. If i ever see Sporn, Chambers, Longmuir etc play again I'll have to take a box of tissues with me to the game, and for those who i sit with usually that might be quite embarrassing

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Mjonc signing off at 8888

I asked this elsewhere - forgot where and didn't see if it was answered - How much does it cost to promote a rookie?

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"I had to eat"

I would have thought a bucket more appropriate.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

We'd need to know the pay scales of a rookie vs 1st year player + matchpayments. Anyone?

$20,000 I think. That's why we have not seen any promoted!

From the CBA:

4.2 Where a Rookie is temporarily promoted to the Primary List of an AFL Club to
replace a Long Term Injury List Player, he shall be paid until he is transferred back
to the Rookie List or until the last Match played by his Club in the AFL Season,
whichever occurs first (in lieu of his Rookie Base Payment), a base payment on a
monthly pro-rata basis and a Senior Match Payment per Senior Match of the amount
set out in the table below:
Year Base Payment Senior Match Payment
2004 $38,100 $2,150
2005 $39,300 $2,200
2006 $39,300 $2,200

Normally a rookie is paid as follows:

4.1 An AFL Club shall pay each Rookie on its Rookie List in 2004, 2005 and 2006 a
minimum base payment and minimum Senior Match payment per Senior Match of
the amount set out in the table below:
Year Base Payment Senior Match Payment
2004 $25,000 $0
2005 $25,750 $0
2006 $25,750 $0

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Gee Pagan drafted in a real diamond with Saddo....and of course Chambers and Longmuir.

You can't teach an old, tired, useless dog new tricks.

Pagan has tried to with:

Saddington
Morell
Clark
Kenna
McKernan
Harford

and I am sure there are more.

Pagan has lost the plot.

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A better recycled option would have been Woewodin.

Least he would have offered something.

Regardless of whether Saddo is a nice guy or not, the club need too start giving answers, for Pagan too not be accountable for this and ignore the members is rediculous.

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cant see how getting woewoden would have helped.
whould have just robbed game time off bentick, blackwell murphy etc.

saddo was bought in to hopefully give us a chop out down back (where we are very thin) while the likes of bower, hartlett etc develop.

unfortunatley his body hasn't held up.

Let's hope this isn't another "Carlton gave away pick 19(?) for Davenport & the bloke picked up was Barry Hall" situation.

Who'd the Swans get with pick 53?

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I think its very very important to differentiate between 2 types of retreads:

1. Those where we had our hands tied behind our back
2. Optional trades.

Group 1 are those that we had to take in 2003 to clear some expensive contracts (and apparent attitudes / problems) from the list. Clarke for Beaumont, Allan gone, Morrell & Teague for Mckernan etc. We really were hamstrung back then.

2. Longmuir, Chambers clear choices we had and failed decisions. bag away!

See ya Jase.

We hardly knew ya.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

True, but we did not have to replace those players with short term options.

Pagan must have thought that the Clarke's and Morell's would be able to fill the void quickly. He was wrong and it pit us back about 3 years in the rebuilding process.

Pagan has made some terrible playing list decisions.

I believe that he will make more of them too.

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IIRC the Swans picked up Matthew Laidlaw with the pick we gave them for Saddington

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Surely Jackson has to be promoted now.

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Don't you have to have it in the first place before you can lose it?

I was happy to see Saddo kick his first Blue goal against the Swans back in round [n]. I recall seeing him stuff up monumentally (called "doing a Campo" after what that played did last weekend for his new club against the Roos) but that's about the extent of it ... pity, I really held hope out, despite what my Swans-supporting colleagues said about him when we learned we swapped him for our draft pick ...

Oh well .. maybe that's why Pags is persisting with the oldies coz we can't afford to promote the rookies ..

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(The SEN team during the Carlton v Cats 2009 pre-season match)

Im REAALLY REALLY REALLY disappointed we couldnt get our hands on Spriggs and Knoble too....
Thank Goodness....

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