Setantas kicking is pretty effective even if it looks shithouse.
Nobody tries to improve himself more than the Irish!!!!

Go SETANTA!!!

Should be in each and every week...!!!

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It happened twice yesterday with Betts too in the forward line. Betts was running past in the clear but both players (Houla and Wiggo I think) went for glory instead and kicked a point.

I think confidence (or lack of) in team-mates is one of the reasons for skill errors. The decision making of players like Thornton, Deluca, and even Kennedy is too slow because the players don't seem confident in each other.

The lack of contested markers in our team is one reason why.

Setanta's kicking is ungainly but once his confidence is up it will get better. That goal on the run was a beauty and more like that will raise his confidence - and his teammates confidence in him.

are you nuts

T-Bird looks more assured than any player we have on the pitch when he is running and kicks.

a graceful player is T-Bird

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Got to love the stare Down by Setanta on Llyod

Hey Prez

Don't waste your time asking rhetorical questions....

At times yesterday I thought he was trialling for a spot with the doggies for 2007.

He might look graceful, but I reckon his disposal was ordinary yesterday.

Then again he's not Robinson Crusoe there.

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Its Prendas fault that Setanta has an awkward kicking style

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Aesthetics are virtually irrelevant.
As long as the correct part of ball hits the correct part of the foot at the correct time consistently, the rest is irrelevant.
How ugly it is until the impact is unimportant.
Setanta usually places the ball well and his kicking style and ball drop is reasonably consistent.

It's a very similar to a golf swing. You can spin the club 3 times around you head if you want, as long as the club makes impact with the ball in the correct position.

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We have heaps of players who cannot kick the ball properly - Carrazzo, AW, AB, Livo, DeLuca, etc

Walker was also avoided frequently on Sunday. Confidence is a HUGE factor in the teams make-up. It is starting to creep back in but you can see that some of the boys still have none.

How do we correct this? Confidence, technique, mindset - all 3 IMHO!!!

Look at Adelaide & Sydney - 95% of the time will hurt you by foot and hand, and they can afford to have slow players in their team, foot-wise, as they make up for it by hurting the opposition by disposal.

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

A related point is protection for the kicker. The Crows are magnificent at creating space and time for the kicker, whereas our work off the ball still leaves a lot to be desired.

I agree with this to an extent BV, but if it's a loping swing of the foot and a lengthy drop, rather than a short drop and compact kick of the ball (and I think he leans back a little in the kick), then it will be to his own detriment under pressure.

So depending on the technique used, I guess you're right.

Spot on BV refer to Curly Austin. An unattractive kicking style but most effective.

I think Setanta can make it as a CHB......did well on Grant and made some good decisions...Presti from Collingwood is no stylist yet has carved out a decent career..I dont think Setantas kicking is that bad and he is still learning the game.....notice his handball was very good and like Presti I would like to see him dish off to running players and generate some drive....I thought he played very well and is being judged on that one shanked kick for goal which I think is unfair....

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Setanta took chances with his kicking on the weekend and that was the biggest positive, he had a dip...

Look his kicking will take time it's as simple as that, it's called football saturation...I have grown up with a football in my hands and when i didn't have one i kicked anything i could find, thus i can do anything with the football....

Setanta has to have a footy in his hands as often as possible..

A great way of improving his kicking would be to bounce a T.W.Sherrin as often as possible so he can help saturate his hand in guiding the ball down...

In the end it just takes time.

But to truly have great skills you have to have a deep love for the art of kicking the T.W.Sherrin.........

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I agree with you, BV. Look at Ben Cousins' kicking style, especially when on the run. Not exactly text-book, yet he's considered one of the top 10 in the league for spotting up a teammate and plonking the pill on the chest.

There may be some tinkering needed at the edges, but if he's able to maintain consistency, and accuracy, especially under pressure, then there are far bigger problems within that Club than him.

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