Did I say he was fast? I said his pace was not the reason for his career ending... very different things. His turnovers were continual and even when he sourced the ball, using his pace for instance, he gave it up. He worked very hard but couldnt convert it to advantage.

Your contention seems to have slipped over the past few days too youngster - you seem to be saying he was too slow for the back pocket... and not slow overall. What are you saying?

Yeah.... and?

I think we need to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of someone who can cast a real deciding vote... someone who knows this recruiting caper intimately....

jimmae?