The most secretive club in the league.

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the facts are astounding

methinks Sophocles might be killed all over again.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

I'll bet the house that you and a few mates on here will still be bitching and moaning tomorrow and the next day and the next etc etc etc. I don't have a crystal ball but I like to be just as sure about Saturday nights tatts numbers.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

I'll give you some bitching....someone is supposed to pick me up at 6pm...but still posting on TC at 5.53....

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There's so much I could say...

Whether Pagan can or can not get on with players is immaterial. The facts remain that he can't get them to play together well enough to win games. That is the bottom line that he will be judged on. When you lose games then everything is scrutinised. When you win games, who cares how you get there... although murder, rape and pillaging should not be allowed.

Theres your POY!!!! (Post of the Year).

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

She conveniently forgets to tell people that out of the goodness of my old heart, I leave the shelter of our warm home to trek through peak hour traffic to pick her up most nights, thereby preventing the pain and suffering she may suffer sitting beside sweaty, smelly RMIT students on public transport.

She also neglects to point out that my being late, allows her to consume larger quantities of 'Friday after-work alcoholic drinks' with her companions.

Yes I am a martyr

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Pair of wusses.

In Archer's experience this is no doubt true since 90% of his footy was under Pagan - and that was when Pages had Wayne to win premierships for him.

So Archer lives in a bubble and does not talk to any players expect Kangaroos players!

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I'm sure the direct experience of 10 years under Pagan would far outweigh a bit of gos around the footy traps. Given that this thread is about an alleged clash between Pagan and Lappin, I thought it odd that Danny would use a player who spent most of his career under Pagan in an attempt to 'prove' that all players bitch about their coach.

This is not about a player having a bit of a bitch about the coach - this is about a senior player confronting the coach about his game plan. And this is not the first time Lappin has been reported doing this:

http://talkingcarlton.com/phpBB2/viewto ... gan#272589

http://talkingcarlton.com/phpBB2/viewto ... ht=#293497

BUt you go ahead and your little head off.....

Alleged

Outweigh

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Have had this rumor confirmed to me as fact by a very reliable source.

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Everything before the word "but" is horseshit - J Snow

My source was confirmed as a rumour.

So it's a fact that it is a rumour.

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Reliably rumoured to be a source!!??!!

i like sauce on my rumour dog

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Go Blues

You have nothing to complain about you should see the Stalinest regime under Ratchett (SWMBO )

I'm reliably informed that Ratchett is just a rumour.