I'm with Deano Surpremo here............."Don't confuse the situation!"

BArry Mitchell's choice to move Setanta to the back line had it's critics (ME - for one) but it has proven to be a blessing for Setanta & the CFC!

He is a Developing player in just his third year of football. Don't shift him around!!!!!! He is starting to develop a sense of 'Belonging!'

WELL DONE IRISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Setanta actually reminds me of Mark Zanotti (ex WC Fitzroy and Brisbane)

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Agreed. What happens when he does a knee ala Adam Goodes performing a role he should never be asked to do?

Paul Roos swore Goodes would never contest centre bounces again, i think he's gone back on that, but I for one never want to put our future star CHF at risk like that.

Let the kids play a role and when they've mastered that you can experiment a little with them.

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Big Irish took another step today, after the Hawks game earlier this year it was obvious he was at sea playing forward. Had to go back and run straight which he is doing well.

What I don't understand is the number of supporters pointing out his clangers, the game was full of clangers, Pagan commented on this after the game. All of our senior players today turned the ball over and at times couldn't hit a target.

Watch the game again and you will see HEAPS of clangers but for some reason most want to point out Irish's mistakes. After 6 AFL games he is coming on very nicely.

Rememebr 3 years ago he had never held an AFL football.

you're joking mjonc.... he had Lee and Reynolds in the first 2/12 qtrs and barely gave them a touch, McVeigh did okay but even when he kicked a goal in the last Setanta had been directed by team mates to pick up Lucas for a few minutes and was not on him. Given that Essendon* kept their forward line open and flogged us out of the middle at various times, it was always going to be very hard for our defenders. Setanta, in his first full senior game - he was on field for a full 100 minutes- beat his opponents and won the ball well. He had 4 clangers - playing on after a strong mark, mistake but trying to create something; kick smothered while waiting for anyone in our forward line to give him a lead and a couple of shanked kicks. Want to go through the rest of the side and count mistakes. If he was a local kid playing his first full 100 minutes we'd be rapt. Why do we mark him harder even tho he has greater excuses for mistakes.

He has improved enormously in the last 4 games and is well ahead of schedule to be a real good player in 08 which is the time frame I reckon would be reasonable. Guys like AB, Houla, McGrath, Fisher, Waite etc who have been playing all their life made terrible kicking errors today. A couple of Setantas cut out spoils and smothers made up for any mistakes.

Was rapt with his game. I was beguinning to doubt if he'd get there after his earlier games forward but looks awesome in the backline. CHB could have his name all over it in a year or two.

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I thought after he went back in the VFL he was going to do okay. What til he's played a year there - funny thing is wasn't it his first game (was it a Nab game, or whatever they called it then) against Geelong he played down back? Thought he did well that day too. What would that be, two years ago?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

He played his role well and showed that with another 20-30 games he will be at the level we will want from him.

His main issue is the lack of instinct when he has the ball (and he's not alone in our mob) but that extra split second can bring him undone. However I think that's partly because he has learned his footy at the VFL level and probably needs time to adjust his reflexes to the faster game.

My feeling is we should keep playing him while he's getting the pill. If he starts to look like his confidence is wavering then put him back in the VFL.

I think Denis has done the right thing with the way he's been playing him.

Tony Shaw thinks he was shocking. Can't believe Denis thinks he played well. Shaw has something against a Carlton player.

Walls thinks we should persisit with him. Even Caro thought he was OK.

Shaw is a disgrace and BW if you hear listen to him he'll always have a dig at Houlihan

How he can say he was terrible is amazing; the bloke doesn't have a clue

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On TripleM they were calling him The Wild Man Of Borneo

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Setanta has played his best two games for the club over the last couple of weeks, giving the first real signs that he might just make it...

Great idea playing him in the backline.

This enables him to see the play unfold infront of him and allows him to run straight lines.

When learning how to play footy there is no quicker way to learn than to play in the backline......

We must continue playing him for the rest of the year if possible (Bower and Hartlett to come in also)..

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I didnt get what he was on about with Setanta and only highlighted his mistakes....the Irishman is exciting and agressive and his skill will only improve..no doubt he can make it as a player IMO..

re Houlihan...he his on the money..failed to lay blocks for players especially the Bret Thornton holding the ball decsion where Houlihan didnt attack the footy but stood and waited.. a better player would have tried to help his teammate out instead of looking for an easy receive...you cant teach that...you have to weigh those faults up with whatevea positives Houlihan has.....I dont see him as a long term senior player when we get our kids fully developed..Kade Simpson would have attempted to protect his teammate..thats the difference...and why Simpson is leadership material..

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OMG!!! NOT THE TONY SHAW???

But, but, but................but he's a champion of the game who's opinion is so valued by the Players, Supporters & Media together! One of the greatest football personalities that has ever lived!

Excuse me for wanting to vomit but i have as much respect for Tony Shaw as i do for the shit i take after that Indian Food i had the other night.

Where is the Emoticon for 'Masterbating', cause that's all Shaw does.

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Its the difference between obvious and observation.

You can note, as many media performers do, the obvious mistake. Or you can watch what they do through the game, how thy position themselves and how they make sure they dont lose the 1 on 1. Setanta made some very obvious mistakes. He also did some fantastic things that set up play for us. His size and pace are so unique that they will be an amazing combination. Many of our more esteemed recruiting posters doubted the move to defence. Well, probably all of us did! But he continues to surprise with some of the great things he can do.

Other cases in point of 'obvious' are someone giving Lucas BOG on half a game and someone putting Stevens in the best for us, when his kicking effectiveness must be abour 50% on the weekend. Media reps dont have the time to fully understand or watch many players at once. Tehy simply cant. They dont get paid for footy analysis they get paid to tell a simple story.

Speaking of observation, Bryan single handedly created 3 turnovers by defensive pressure in the last quarter. he may lose the ruck but he does some very nice things.

He was all over the place!.... But his accelleration in the last quarter is what got me excited... I don't know if he'd done some time on the pine, but the way he cooked McVeigh over the first couple of steps was unreal!

I would love to see him, in 50 games time, playing on the ball and making the likes of Pavlich, Reiwoldt and other "tall, athletic, mobile, key position-cum-ruck-rovers" cry when they see how he moves... He's pretty good below the knees and with the quick handball too.

I loved the rugby league-style forearm across McVeigh's(???) face when he was at the bottom of the pack after McVeigh had stitched him up... But its a bit hard to be a sniper when you stick out like the proverbial. He might need to be taught how to (subtly) put his fist through the back of the head in a marking contest if he needs to get his 'Irish' fix.

Future CULT HERO for sure!

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Tony Shaw is a dick.

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But he had 28 possessions so he must have played well.

And that coming from a man that could not see a tree stump in front of him!!!

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

Promising game from Setanta. Made a couple of mistakes early, but did some good things. And presented well, although was ignoreda number of times by players who should know better when in good position in the corridoor. A good way to improve his confidence is to actually give him the ball.

Quite happy at the moment to leave him at half back, and get him to work on marking his opponent ... and he is not alone in needing this.