Wrapped with Setanta made mistakes didnt drop his head tried his guts out and thats all u can ask for he always gives 110 percent

That decision on the goal line cost us the game when Brett Thornton touched the ball and horrible set shots at goal

But, but, but....he gets the best tagger every week!â„¢

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Tony Shaw is one of the few members of the media that had the balls to speak out against our Black Friday penalties.

While many of his peers delighted in our misery, he was one of very few that saw the injustice for what it was.

He will always have my utmost respect for that.

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If a hypothetical draftee (who was the same size of Carlos) played the same game as Carlos did yesterday after only 6 games, we'd be saying, "well done, he's got potential".

Now that's for someone who's grown up with the life.

Carols had played the game for 3 years only...it's going to be exciting watching him develop.

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Number 17 - come on down!

These cauliflower didnt think so.....




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Oompa loompa doompety dee
If you are wise you'll listen to me

Good to see Synners in there sticking up for Setanta

I love 'Irish'... champ of a guy.. super enthusiastic and absolutely dedicated.
I have no doubt he will make it.

Never underestimate what he brings to the club when he walks through the front gates each day.

Some blokes bring nothing...

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Setanta was easily one of the positives.

The (non) use of Kennedy one of the negatives.

Like Deano I don't mind that dirty little rat Tony Shaw. he is one of the few guys who is fair about Carlton. I didn't hear what he said but clearly he was focussing on errors, and if you want errors I reckon there were lots of players ahead of Setanta. But the fact is I didn't see too many guys out there take a couple of big pack marks or gather while out pacing a smaller opponent then burning off chasers. Didn't see too many reflex smothers from any Essendon* players over 196 cms (or under for that matter). As for that rubbish on BombersBlitz - what a crap website. I thought a lot of people barracked for the Bombers. I looked on Friday. It looks like there's about 4 people who post and then the quality is neanderthal. I didn't realise how smart and articulate Carlton supporters were until I looked at the Blitz site. Fact is Setanta looked awful againt the Hawks. They brought him back after about 3 games in defence for the Ants. I thought they brought him back too soon, but he has improved enormously each game. Against Geelong he fumbled a few times, I can't remember a fumble in the last few weeks. What do you want in a player - dedication etc of course, then how about height, pace, closing speed, ball handling, capacity for improvement. Gets good marks from me on all those. It's his first year on the senior list. Are the Bombers fans launching into Ryder for his no stat game. He'd probably played more senior games than Setanta. Fact is I had my doubts early in the season, but I think he has improved enormously and will continue to as he plays out the season in the ones.

Well done Synbad for bringing a bit of sense BB. I thought they'd be more worried about their own future than ours. They are just entering the tunnel. At least we can see light somewhere ahead.

Interestingly the footy wrap on 10 on Sat night highlighted Setanta's good play and said how happy Carlton would be with him. I know Andy Maher fights the good fight but still the point was well made. Maybe in 2008 we can see if the BBers have altered their opinion. I think they may have.

Watching the game on Foxtel and listening to Shaw, I didnt think Shaw was too negative at all. he highlighted the mistakes, correctly picked out the problem with the McVeigh match-up, but commmented twice in the last on great defensive clearances by Setanta.

Actually EB, you can feel the pain if you read between the lines....

This is from a site that sponsors Ryder and Dyson...imagine if they sposored Bolton as well!

Saturday was tragic...only MMM broadcasting and I was at the game watching a 6 game player doing REALLY well while the MMM idiots were bagging him in the commentary.

Do they actually watch the game.

Setanta was good...very good this week. So he had a clanger...so what. I think what's improving is his reading of the play. turning players, getting right side of the ball etc. For a guys that has the atheletic stuff anyway THIS is real progress.

Will be interesting to revisit this thread at game 50

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Greg Lee

Realistically Setanta has only 2 years playing experience when you consider that he was injured for most of his first year (2004) with stress fractures of the foot.

Has a hell of a lot of upside and I'm excited about his potential.

When it comes to mistakes/turnovers I would be more concerned with Waite, Walker and Fisher.

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Consider this also:

2006 is Setanta's first year in defence.

In his 2 prior years, he played forward - mainly as a leading FF. Perhaps the change was necessary given how many forwards we have on the list, particularly the great form of Fev at FF, but Setanta's move back is very recent.

Phenomenal return.

Santy played his best game on the weekend and will just get better. Some of his defensive efforts were all class and the pack mark in the last quarter was totally brilliant. to be sure to be sure

Couldn't agree more.

If we were going to drop players for making mistakes, I think we'd have about 3 players in our side next week... maybe 2!

Setanta towelled up 2 oponents, and his attack on the ball, bith to spoil and to create, was second to none on the day. He made 3 or 4 mistakes, but so what! He's certainly not the lone ranger there and he more than made up for those mistakes with the positive things he did.

We left the game thinking we've really found something in the backline with O'Hailpin - My Dad (who's also Irish!) generally doesn't give a player a rap unless he's seen something special, and he was rapt with Setanta on the weekend, and he couldn't believe that the MMM commentary were having a go at him on the drive home...

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GO YOU BIG RED FIRE ENGINE
Move aside Kouta, Lance etc - you're holding us back... from entering the under 18s

Who cares what the media/scum tools think, honestly!!! Santy is awesome!! Sure there were a few clangers, I have my heart in my mouth every time he loads up a kick, and his decision making leaves something to be desired, but he gives his all every time he runs out.

Heard fev interviewed on MMM after the game and he said that DP gave Santy big wraps in the post game. Fev then spoke about how Santy inspires the blokes every time he turns up to the track.

End of the day, in the years going forward it will be much easier to teach Setanta to kick and spot up the right options than it will be to teach Mrs Houlihan to stick tackles, or Teague to grow another 5cm and gain 5 yards of pace. Kicking is a skill and skills training can fix it, just takes practice and all accounts are that setanta has not just the right attitude, but the perfect attitude. Decision making comes from experience, of which he understandably has little. Playing games and training will improve this.

I am wrapped for the big guy, I loved his game on the weekend. I saw blokes who've been playing the game sice they were 5 butcher the ball, why should I be surprised if an irish hurler who hadnt seen a footy 4 years ago makes a few mistakes. That pack mark, his smother, and some of his running were exceptional. Had one on the HBF I think in the last Qtr where he ran with the ball in one hand and then handballed 20m, could he have done that 4 years ago at top speed?? He moves very well for a bloke of his size and the gymwork has paid dividends. Can you imagine when he gets a bit of confidence, 100 odd kilos of angry setanta charging into a contest at top speed?? Exactly what we want going forward.

Let the rest of the world under rate him, I dont care, I'll renew my membership next year just to see the likes of Santy, MM, Blackers, JK etc coming on!!!

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"Who discovered we could get milk from cows, and what did he think he was doing at the time?" Billy Connolly

That's the spirit 2ndeffort!
I'm with you all the way!

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There's so much I could say...

I have just soiled myself.

Go you good thing Setanta.

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Winston Churchill

He played defense in the VFL last year and looked good there, if a little awkward.

Not in the games that I saw? He may have been thrown back at times but he predominantly played CHF / FF last year.

M