That's a bit silly.

It's the Rising Star award, not the "Best First Year Player" award.

As for Murph and Shawry...one was #1 pick in the draft, the other was a Father/Son selection who was generally rated as a 4th round pick by most other clubs. Usually a big difference between the development/game-time of pick 1 and pick 50-75 odd.

You could easily argue that based on their respective wraps, Shaw should be favoured due to the fact that Murphy was expected to be astar anyway.

Either way, most of those eligible this season have been very impressive and look like bloody talented players. None of them need an award to understand where they sit within their clubs.

interesting point you make there ADP...so how do you rate Clint Bartram's year (pick 60 2005 draft)...?

No good. You have to be a Collingwood player and a late pick to qualify.

Murphy will be stiff not to win.
Pearce and Shaw are his main competition , now Raines is unavailable(I think).
I think 13 games is enough to win the award if you have shown yourself to be the outstanding nominated footballer , but I think it will be hard for the selectors if Shaw and Pearce have a particularly strong final 5 rounds.

As I said earlier:

"...most of those eligible this season have been very impressive and look like bloody talented players..."

The winner could come from anywhere and Bartram is as much a chance as any of them.

After Murphy was injured the club asked me to write up a story comparing Murphy to past winners of the Rising Star award.

It's been a few weeks since they have had it, so it looks like it will not be published. It is not a history piece so did not put it in the Blueseum, instead I published it here:

http://carltonsupportersclub.com/index. ... 2&Itemid=2

Makes for an interesting comparison.

The table from the article -



He compares very well to the past winners of the award, hopefully the judges take this into account.

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If they take that into account, then they'll also have to take into account that Heath Shaw, Danyle Pearce and Brad Symes have played more football than Murphy and still maintain better disposal averages.

#1 Shaw - 21.19
#2 Symes - 21.00
#3 Pearce - 19.76

#5 Murphy - 18.00
#6 Raines - 17.06

The deeper you analyse the stats, the clearer the choice of Heath Shaw becomes.

If it was based on stats alone, of course.

Unless Raines gets his charge thrown out he will be ineligible.

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&s ... eid=285380

Impact on games would be a greater consideration. Murphy has left a huge hole in our team, led the team in assists and top 5 in league, where as Shaw is easily covered IMO as a running back. Also take into account the destiny of the teams, alot easier to get a kick in a winning team than the wooden spooners.

Symes is a shit kicker, poor disposal in that 21 possessions similar to Shaw, while Shaw also has a bit of his older brother in him, shriking the contest at times.

Raines ifhe gets cleared and Murphy are the standouts, Pearce and Shaw to fight it out for the remainins spots.

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Shaw and Pearce were both drafted a year befor Murph, Symes 2 years befor and Murphy was playing some pretty shit hot footy and only getting better. If he had of been able to play every game this question would not even need to be asked.
But he did play 12 games and yet he still has a chance, a very slim chance. Thats a pretty fair effort and shows what sort of player he is going to be AND WE GOT HIM!!!!!!.
If Murph finishes in the top 5 it's an asome effort, those pricks are just lucky he didn't get to finish the season.

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AWWWWWW STEVENS.

In the end the judges should consider current form and the potential to be a rising star in the future. Call me biased but if I was asked to pick one of those guys to play football with my club for the next 10 years the choice is quite simple. NAB rising star Marc Murphy.

As I see it, and I might be oversimplifying it, but as I see the Norwich Rising Star, it is not a best and fairest competition, but rather a prediction of who will be the biggest star.

One way I see of coming to this is who is the person that you wouldnt trade. In my view, and even tho I am biased, i think all opposition teams would trade heath shaw, danyle pearce, andrew raines etc in a heartbeat for marc murphy. And why is that? because murphy is clearly going to be the biggest star!

Therefore, marc murphy should win the NRS.

Correct?

Glad we got that sorted, then.

ADP, being a collingwood supporter, you would agree, would you not, that collingwood would trade heath shaw for marc murphy in a heatbeat? On the other hand, there is no way carlton would trade marc murphy for heath shaw.

Clearly this shows that murphy is a bigger rising star?

Stats in the midfield are worth 2 junk possessions playing loose out of the backline.
Lance Whitnall plays loose man like Shaw and his stats are worth jack shit as well.

Murphy has played at the coal face and performed to the point where Adelaide put a tagger on him.
Comparing apples with marshmallows.

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For someone who doesn't watch football, you're pretty forthright in your opinions.

I reckon Marc Murphy would be a more than worthy winner - 10 games, 20 games, whatever, it doesn't matter.

But for the record, if you blokes had unearthed a Heath Shaw, or Heath was indeed playing at Carlton, there would be so many threads dedicated to him it wouldn't be funny. The way you lot carry on about the likes of Bentick and Carazzo and that bloke with the 70's mullett from 2 years ago who was "going to be our next Brownlow medalist" (McCormack?), if you actually had Heath Shaw playing at Carlton, the amount of man-paste smashing into the insides of your collective Y-Fronts would ensure that your memberships figures never increase due to a population crisis.

We do have a Heath Shaw... Ryan Houlihan....

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Dont I watch football?
I better be quiet then. Here's me thinking I watch football and all along I was obviously wrong.

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