The biggest positive of this is that Kouta is the last player on our list with Allison as a manager isn't he?!

How is DA's other star client performing over at Moorabbin?

I agree completely with Blue Bird's assessment of Kouta's career. Just as his contract at that time was suitable for the time and context of his career, so too is this reported contract offer.

When Kouta signed his last deal the club was flying, he was in the top 5 best players in the comp able to win games off his own boot in a single quarter. Now his career is tapering off and the club is over neck deep in the shitter. Kouta's biggest asset to the club now is his experience and ability to help develop the younger players, our future success lies with them, not with Kouta.

I think the respect we should show Kouta is a two way street. Maybe $200K is a bit light on, but $300K is more than enough IMO. If Kouta played on somewhere in that salary range I'd be happy. In that regard Allison should pull his friggin head in … again!

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Contracts nowadays are all aabout market value - what would he get at another club?

For mine he can play on if he elects to at a market value salary. I reckon that'd be around the $200 - 250 mark. He could then hang up his boots with his dignity intact.

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

Full marks to Malouf and the board for taking the hardline and not offering more than he's worth. But David Allison is a leech and the following line annoys me no end after the money Kouta's received from Carlton.
Kouta asked to take $900,000 pay cut


Maybe you could make a threat to pull him out this weeks game like you did a decade ago.

Kouta getting us another draft pick by not playing is the perfect example of leadership.

And that would be more than he's shown as Captain.

Her art is shit!

Essendon* has first pick in the preseason draft they will be licking there lips. .

Im sure they will offer him 400 k for the next two years.

Athorn are you arguing or agreeing with me? I said that Kouta will not be our future.

BB no other club would have signed Kouta up on a 5 year contract worth $5,000,000.

Please retire gracefully Kouta. Don't let Allison tarnish your reputation as a Carlton legend.

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Hold on a second, Allison works on behalf of Koutafidies, he's only trumpeting what his employer feels and wants.

Our captain is a disgrace, has been for at least 5 years. His input on the field is minimal, doesn't chase, harrass, do anything in the way of leadership and he feels he's worth more than $200,000.

I can't wait to see the back of him, it's been a long time coming and it can't come soon enough.

I am surprised by the stance most of you are taking. Personally, I wouldn't mind the club giving Kouta $300K. Half of it wont count towards the TPP anyway and given the club needs to pay 92.5% of their 2007 TPP, we dont have the quality of list to justify paying this anyway so we will probably need to spread some money around and Kouta deserves this just as much as anyone else. He still has a role to play if his body is OK. I dont think its unreasonable.

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C'mon Blueboys!

I'd rather spend that $100,000 on an assistant coach.

This time around CFC holds the cards in Kouta's next contract - and the reason is the veterans' list. No other club is going to pay him $200K so basically he needs to stay with us to get anything near that! Allison is desperate to raise those stakes for his benefit as well (let's never forget that!).

Which ever way things go with Kouta, this has to be LAST time that we have to endure that Alison prick "negotiating through the media".

Had an absolute gutful of this ARSEHOLE feeding his Journo mates nothing but negative crap on the Club!! It's actually a good comparison posted earlier on the 2 articles written by Mark Robinson re contract negotiations..... Kouta's written purely around Alison's quotes; Lucas' written with a balanced view. Pricks!!!

I love Kouta ..... but I don't think much of his mate!!!!

From todays Jim Wilson article in the Hun.....


C'mon big fella, this one has to be for the Jumper!!!

Unfortunately Alison knows no other way....

Everything is a "disgrace and an insult"

Kouta as said in the article doesn't discuss contact issues....even his super contract was offred to him ...he didn't squeeze that out (mind you didn't need to)...

Point 1.The major problem is that Kouta is essentially a really nice, humble and honourable guy. He appreciates any of the help he has had along the way and never forgets it.

Same thing happened when they were asking to extend the contract and payments....Alison "disgrace, insult", and Kouta just accepted what was offered by the club ....in more or less direct negotiation.
Major reason he hasn't pissed Alison off is point 1.

The problem as I see it is that he's now going to feel compelled to stay so that he doesn't look like he left because they offered him less money (see point 1 ) and that's NOT why he should play another year...

Also the reason he was cheesed off with Campo but never said anything...Point 1 ..
The reason why he still "backs " Elliot and Brittain when asked? - see point 1

Can anyone find me a quote where Kouta has actually crticised someone or said that he's felt a bit "hard done by" from the club????

Trust me ...Kouta's persona is such that if he said anything like this (or even felt it!) his mum would be twisting his ear, marching him through the doors at PP (MCLP) and making him apologise.

My sincere hope is that Kouta gets a media offfer he can't refuse, an offer the club can't match...it allows him to bow out honourably....

"Kouta we'ld love to have you here nxt year, but you have to think of your future and that is just such a good offer".....

That's about the only way that Kouta will "feel" he's not letting down the club in some way and that it may be an advantage for all parties...


Just my 2c....haven't spoken to Kouta, no inside info on this issue

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Thanks for illustrating exactly what I was talking about.

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very well put billc.....i would agree with your logic

and the motto is? nice guys get beaten up every time because they are trying to please everyone

Beat me to it BB. That would have to be the worst outlook to try and say that Allison is just representing Kouta's wishes. We all know who drives these media negotiations.

The one problem is that Kouta does allow this guy to represent him and whatever Allison says does reflect on Kouta...unfortunately

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Not sure about that!!
If the Swans could have offered more he would have been in Sydney

Who do you think you are with your rolling eyes emoticon??? How does your opinion hold more credence than that of others??

I was the first person back on the TBV days to highlight the worth or lack of worth of this supposed Carlton icon.

Why doesn't he take a leaf out of Buckley's or Hird's book, proper clubmen who still contribute significantly both on and off field. How does our captain feel hard done by when an offer of $200,000 is put before him?? He's greedy!!!

What example does he set the younger players when he fails to raise a gallop in a chase? The bloke rarely raises a sweat and he feels that he has more of the same to contribute next year. No thanks, he can miss off. You can remain sentimental as much as you like.

If the bloke was such an influence on the field then we wouldn't be 10 wins from 100. Same goes with Whitnall and you can even through in Stevens to the mix. We successfully removed camporeale last year, time to remove these two also.

Allison is about to come on SEN......guess I don't have to take my Metamucil this morning.....

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$200,000 for one year if he keeps that @#$%&! nuckle Allison as a manager.

$300,000 for one year if he flowers Allison off as a manager.


And if he decides to retire give him a testimonial, befitting his rank as a great Carlton player.

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