did primus play in a premiership for another team coz he didnt play when port won theres, i ask because it says he was drafted to fitzroy there.

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'Was in the audience for the first ever episode of The Late Show which featured most of the Degeneration crew so I guess I know a bit about it.' blow the trumpet loud enough and I am sure someone will come sheiky.

Sorry Mark but some men need to be played with

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

God pick up. I forgot he missed. Jason McCartney was another who missed a premiership as a Pick 4.

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Mjonc signing off at 8888

Some of the arguments about why another pick in the top 20 wouldnt make a difference... and we dont need it... are funny...

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Yep, it's official, you do have a mental problem.

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GROUND ZERO + DRAFTING YOUTH = SUSTAINED SUCCESS

Did Des Headland play in one of the Brisbane Premierships? should he be on the list as a No 1?

Yeh he would be the second number 1 pick to win a premiership, drafted from the 1998 draft. Was on my bit of paper, I blame not wearing my glasses at the time

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Mjonc signing off at 8888

Agree with what the Sheik has said and I cant figure out why some of us wouldnt want a extra top 20 pick in a strong draft.
The club is on its knees and the only hope we have to cling onto is our younger players and what we can add to them...we need to take advantage of everything on offer and if that means engineering another quality pick then do it...because Collingwood, Hawthorn etc did it last season and none of the other clubs would think twice about using the system...
If we dont get some on field success that can be sustained for a decent period of time we will lose members, sponsors and continue to be on welfare from the AFL....

re: The Sheik...wouldnt mind reading the reason why he was banned either....if it was for having an opinion then its a poor excuse...he dishes it out but he cops it sweet so I dont see why he was banned from the posts I have read on this thread...

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- Conor Gillen

week in week out negativity, its just too much for me. im trying to be somewhat happy. i hate tanking threads. i also dont like you and your sniping comments on eveything, nice to see you banned for a while.

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dane's trolling again

It's not irrelevant at all. It's perfectly relevant. All of you sheep on your moral high ground keep saying 'the day I want Carlton to lose a game is the day I stop following football', well i have just given a scenario where you would all want Carlton to lose, eventhough no one will admit it. Anyone who wants to lose and get all that talent I guess aren't 'true supporters'. I mean I want to lose for pick 18 and i must have been told fifty times i'm not a 'true supporter'. So where does it end? Can someone put a measure on whether someone is a 'true supporter' and not a 'true supporter'?? If it was just in exchange for Judd and Reiwoldt and you wanted to lose would that mean you are a 'true supporter' or not? I am confused now. I thought if you didn't want to win every game you weren't a true supporter. How can you want to lose and get all the talent listed above and still be a 'true supporter'???

Another thing I can't understand is how can so many of you ‘win at all costs’ brigade want Essendon* to win another game so they don’t get a priority pick? The extra pick is meant to be worthless and not worth losing a game for. Wouldn’t you prefer Essendon* not to win another game? Wouldn’t you want Essendon’s youngsters not to get that ‘winning feeling’ going into 2007? Wouldn’t you want Essendon’s membership to take a dive next year? Are you sure some of you aren’t Essendon* supporters? How come you can see the value Essendon* will gain from the extra pick but can’t see the gain we will get? I think it all comes down to selfish reasons like wanting to stick it up your work mate or going along and giving it to opposition supporters – It’s ok, it’s not a crime, just admit to it, give up the crap and stop hiding behind ‘the youngsters deserve a win and its better for their development’.


Carlton God

Don't be too hard on yourself ... considering his form at Freo since, I think Headland himself is as much to blame for dropping off the radar as your glasses ...

Richmond God, Judd etc.....aren't going to coming at pick 17 or 18 s there's no point tanking for it. The thing irrelevant here in this debate is you. Go back to Tigerland where those who like losing, like yourself, belong. You'd be made for each other.

think Shiek and I both copped a warning Elwood.

as for the true supporters - both sides feel the other side takes the high moral ground. There is no high moral ground. There are only us dealing with the shit we are in as best we all can.

I expect board members and coaches to make the hard decisions and I'll just barrack for the bluebaggers.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

You got called Richmond God, for someone who likes the idea of losing. That stuff belongs to Richmond, the league's biggest losers. Surely you wouldn't be so sensitive to regard that as name calling and a cheap shot, would you?What you're proposing for an extra second round pick is ridiculous. Especially after you berate people for not not being true supporters for having the gall for actually support their club to win!!!

Must be an interesting debate this one. Last time I looked you didn't have a warning at all!!! Now you got 2. Where did they come from all of a sudden?

Well, we're about to find out all this stuff.

one for using the word moron, one for a general 'playing the man' type thingy I think (Mark will be happy).

anyway with that first quarter once again we see the frivilousness of this whole debate

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

And it has nothing to do with "tanking".

I have always been about if it happens it happens.

Bottom line is that if you are not good enough you get the pick.

On the first quarter performance we are again showing we are not good enough!

Tanking is an invented term that is just that and nothing more.

I just find it funny that pick 18 will be our ticket to premiership success.

I'd be surprised if we win one in the next 20 years, and pick 18 will have come and gone in that time.

Yep.

The absolute minimum is to not trade our early picks away.

The club has been doing that.

Whatever picks come is up to the footy gods.

Using early picks and then creating the environment for those players to blossom is the way the next premiership will come.

It won't be the picks alone that do it (they just provide the base), it is all the other factors, coaching, training facilities, supporters, admin that need to be addressed.

The club is behind in all these factors and they are still years away no matter what picks we get in the next year or two.

Luckily for us the competition is more even now than ever and the climb up is not as forbidding as it used to be.

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