OUT: KOUTA

IN: Anybody thats willing to chase their opponent, have a crack, and not give up.

Houla sure does seem to attract an enormous amount of unfair criticism.

Attacking posters with insults is against site guidelines BW.

Play the ball not the man.

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There's so much I could say...

Thank you. I was starting to think that nobody else actually watched the game. And you can add in 5 clangers from his first 8 possessions. Paper says four, but I reckon they're wrong.

I'm not sure why everyone's listing Russell as an out. I thought he was absolutely hung out to dry by his team mate's disposal. Lost count of the times he ran hard to create an option only to have his team mates butcher the kick so badly that even with all his pace he couldn't get their to take the mark.

Count me in. I was removing $1000 from next year's contract for each screw up. Got him down into the high $180s. By Round 22 he's gonna be paying us to play on next year.

Worst of all was the huddle at half-time when Nick Stevens gave them all a serve before going into the rooms. There was el capitano standing at the back looking around the ground not paying the slightest attention to any of it.

Oh - and those still defending his "honour" - Dave Allison said very clearly on radio yeasterday that Kouta would play on if the money was right but not if it wasn't.

Give me a Digby Morrell anyday.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

GWS,

Its just not yesterday. Its been that way since he has been captain.
He is not worth $200K a season. Kouta is finished gone - surely he will hang the boots up

If DA is still talking that shite [and he would have to be with Kouta's consent], then see ya Kouta because your performance yesterday was uninspiring especially the handball two feet in front of you that did not make the mark.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

Anyone see the huge spray Fev gave Kouta yesterday in the second quarter after he gave the ball back and it resulted in an easy hawker goal
Hollywood Fevola wasnt happy

I believe it was 16 possessions for 8 clangers........

The prosecution rests, Your Honour.

i saw kouta given a spray from fev. excellent to see brenden so animated at his captain.

ins: bower, smith, hartlett (if right), wiggins, anyone but sporn or deluca

out: mcgrath, carazzo, bannister, kouta (wont happen, but neither will any of the ins)



O'hAilpin Thornton Hartlett

walker Whitnall Bower

Simpson Stevens russell

wiggins waite lappin

betts fevola fisher

rucK: French, Scotland, Blackwell

I/C: smith, bryan, bentick, houla

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"In fairness it did seem in the early days of the draft teams would just pick a name totally at random out of a hat. I'm pretty sure we picked James Cook at #2 one year. The mediocre forward, not the explorer" - Me, 12/9/2011

Carlton 2012: Lets remind them why they once feared the Dark.

How Houlas can be criticised for running up to the point of throwing up and beyond astounds me. Everybody here wants signs of hardness but surely giving your maximum has to constitute showing the necessary desire. Harvey has done it many times before and he's not cirticised for it.

Houlas ran with Crawford even though he is a completely different body type and gave his all. More than can be said for a lot of his team-mates yesterday ... and for the whole season so far.

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In WADA we trust

well said - don't critisize Hoops - critisize Scotland who let Crawford run rampant...

i cant believe people are calling for bannister and bryan to get dropped, they held their own yesterday i felt and were extremely good in the 2nd half.:

Agree, some people must have been watching another game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like Banno. He knows how to play. He will never be an out-an-out star, but he does a lot of good things.

Regarding Kouta, yeah he was shocking on the weekend. His clangers were a joke. I was right near when Fev gave him a spray. We were a chance for another goal, but it just went down the other end. Kouta has clearly lost his magic. The commentators on MMM said that his game was poor. Of course they haven't seen all of his games this year like most here have. The truth is that most of his games this year have been like this last one.

Kouta, three more games to go and then it is all over. I don't care how much they offer you because next year you will not be in our best 22. So hang up the boots now before you lose all of your credibility.

I must be the only one but I actually thought that although he didn't get as much of the ball as in recent weeks, Carrazzo wasn't bad yesterday, and his kicking and decision making appeared a bit better. Definitely wouldn't drop him.

Jordan Bannister is a good foot-soldier type, very solid who when played is always honest and really doesn't do too much wrong. He was quite good but I don't reckon his performances vary a hell of a lot so long as he is given adequte groundtime. Would suggest he has done enough for next year.

Would like to see Jesse Smith come in but I wouldn't have thought that Bower was all that realistic a possibility.

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Bannister was good, has improved his decision making and doesnt make many errors..no star but a good grunt. Bryan his usual mixture of great and dismal..never much middle ground but he did actually ruck better than I have seen him and he is a bit more physical the way he goes about it than Barnaby...I wouldnt be dropping Bryan but i wouldnt be getting carried away with him either...needs to cut the errors from his game and get smarter...50/50 to stay on the list...his career might depend what else in terms of ruckman are on the market....

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"When you have the attitude of a champion, you see adversity as your
training partner."
- Conor Gillen

It amazes me too Dukes. Houla sure does seem to attract an enormous amount of unfair criticism.

So does anyone have the rules for the cutoff of rookie promotions?

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Mjonc signing off at 8888