At least someone like Shaun Rehn has been a senior coach for three years with West Adelaide in the SANFL. Top job is very different to assistant second man up -all care no responsibility.

A bullemic coach from the Bombers???

No flower way!!

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It's surprising no-one has mentioned the possibility of Barry Mitchell being appointed, as he has done well with the Bullants over the last three years. I don't know much about Harvey, but I would've thought Mitchell would have similar claims to the role should Pagan depart.

Having said all that, it's hard to imagine Pagan going unless a benefactor is going to stump up $1.5 million, or Pagan is so loyal to his assistants, and resigns because they've been given the flick.

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Spot on.

I don't mind the Shaun Rehn option.

I don't like the Mark Harvey option.

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Maybe he can teach Lance a trick or two.

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NOT Mark Harvey.

He is positioning himself as the heir apparent for the Bumbers when Sheedy calls it a day, or is sacked.

Freo looked unstable early in the season, but has become a strong finals contender of late, but I'm not in a position to know if Harvey has influenced the change of mindset of the players for the better, or the players have finally woken up from their slumber, or the WA media has flogged them into action.

Too dangerous for my liking.

Pagan is likely to stay, and if so, I would prefer him to have more strategically savvy assistants sitting next to him next year on the MC and on match day (assuming he may as some suggest be behind the times).

My position on this is, Pagan has a team of kids to manage that are either just beginning their development such as Bower, Kennedy, Hartlett, Blackwell, Russell... or are still developing such as Fisher, Waite, Carazzo, Betts, Walker, Murphy...and it is reasonable to see that is why their time has not come yet.

Regardless of the coach I believe the 24 kids we have on our list (incl 3 guns in 2007) will make it happen for the Blues in the near future.

Good things take time. We've shown good signs this year, in terms of competitiveness and commitment (albeit it strays at times, at least 1 quarter per game).

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Brett Ratten (Coach)

(Assistants)
Steven Silvagni (defence)
Barry Mitchell (VFL Coach & BV likes him )
Michael Voss (midfield)
Terry Daniher (forwards)

(Specialists)
Gary Dempsey (rucks)

SB i like this set up but could it work if we kept Pagan instead of going with Ratts??

Agree, given the DP contract.

DP

Ratts
SOS
VOSS
TD

Would be a great set-up.

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Guys, I could be wrong but I doubt Ratten or SOS will work with Denis. Unfortunately or vice versa.

Could be wrong, but I'm not very often.

Mitchells the man I want too, but if your going to get a new coach, you go through a process, one of them is interviewing a num,ber of candidates. Mark Harvey being on of them. Mitchell's my choice but I'm happy with the idea of Mark Harvey. I've got no bias against the Bombers like some others on here, just want th best person available.

Pagan's unlikely to be here next year. While our team has improved individually, we have gone backwards as a team. Both concepts are world's apart. Individual improvement can or cannot be because of the caoch, there are many reason why footballers improve individaully, but improving as a team is down to the coach, an area where we have failed badly.

I'm not so excited about Mark Harvey, but excited that Pagan might be going.

I ultimately agree with Sydney... we can bandy around names all day but ultimately I'd hope the club would interview and scrutinise everynoe in the country, including Harvey, and pick the best one... if thats Longmuir, McKenna, Ratten, Rehn, Harvey.... so be it!

We need the best coach available... I don't care who it is, but I want the club to be VERY CERTAIN they're picking the best guy available.

It would be a very very very poor decision to sign Harvey on his merits alone without any context, UNLESS the club had hired some serious recruiting clout to follow him and test him up the ying-yang and are comfortable they're head-hunting the right guy.

I think its too early to be judging Harvey as a mercenary or soft or whatever... we don't know enough about him and we're guessing....

and lets be honest, he couldn't be any worse than Pagan

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AFAIK Ratts has said in the meedyah that he'd be happy to work with Denis.

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Seems there is some truth about Denis being given the boot....





My info suggests that these benefactors are out there and are they are circling.........kinda like a great white.

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Unlike what we have done with past 2:

Brittain - solely on Parkin's endorsement

Pagan - solely on Elliott's cheque book

- look down.

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You can try to rewrite history if you like but at the time of appointment Pagan was the best man for the job. His record up against Eade, Brittain and Wallace was far superior and he had just presided over the most successful Nth Melbourne era ever.

Agree with you on Brittain.

Unfortunately no coach would have been able do better given the constraints on the club since 2003. Wallace has admitted as much publicly since and he finds himself at a club in similar need of rebuilding but with the financial and drafting mechanisms fully available to him - unlike Denis.

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