Spot on. Waite is not a CHF. 30 - 40 goals from a third tall forward is an excellent return.

You waite bashers are all fickle nuts. A year ago he was our future, the panther you all called him. First Fev now waite. Get over it. He has actually been ok for the last few weeks. Coming back from injury etc. Give him a break. Yes he makes some stupid kicking decisions sometimes, but he is lacking confidence like nearly all our list.

He is our future. The guys you should be bagging are our so called leaders, not our young kids.

Bloody hell, this site is becoming unreal.

Waite and Fisher are the future !!!!!!!!!! All this stupid trade talk, is ridiculous. You dont invest in your good players only to trade them. Who knows who you might pick up. Re Luke Livingston, number 4 pick and was a dud.

All of a sudden you are all saying Banno and Wiggins are fantastic. Get real, they are nothing but honest footballers, a bloody big difference to Fisher and Waite.

Think about what you are all talking about.

Couldn't have put it better myself. But hey, they gotta bag some one dont they

Noone is bagging Waite.
But Waite as a 23 year old has delivered very little real football.,

what Waite has to do is be able to take steps up and not be just content to drift in and out of games.

Those that think Waite should be left alone are in effect sentencing Waite to be traded in a year or two time or delisted.

Its a cut throat industry and JW needs to make inroads into being a genuine AFL footballer instead of a guy who just turns up on match days and drifts in and out of football games.

At the moment.. just hugely overated.

and it has nothing to do with injuries. JW is just happy to be a show pony and really needs to roll up his sleeves and work hard at football and cementing a spot as a valuable member of our footy club.

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Wonder what we were all saying about Fev when he was 23 (that's 2 years ago).

Waite is the type of player who can win us games, win us finals. Maybe a little hit and miss now, but let's exercise a little patience shall we .....

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That he was a gun who kicked 60+ goals and had a fair say in most of our 10 wins.

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I think we've argued so much over the glaring problems that we face (Coach, Directors, no funds, struggling to understand the development route of the current Management) that our frustration is getting the better of us.

Waite has had 1 shocking year.

Waite was very good in 2005. He was without doubt a leading light for us whilst Fev was down and Whitnall, well, up & down. I'd argue that Waite's trade value is depressed right now and now would be the wrong time to give him up, if someone really wanted to push it.

I would be using Waite in the backline next year to get him into games more. Waite in defence, Fisher up forward (or vice versa) and Kennedy at CHF

TOO EASY

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You would never trade him. He has all the athletic talent you would want in a draftee. He just needs more discipline in his game. Synbad hit the nail on the head when he called him a show pony. Flying for marks that he is no where near let alone any chance of taking might look spectacular but his opponent would love for him to do it every time.

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Yes, too easy - so you can guarantee it won't happen

very clever....

but seriously... this show-boating stuff.... an extended run in defence is the best place to beat that out of him and get him focussing on the little things that Fisher does so well

Maybe not forever in defence.. but a good run next season (ie, the whole season)

Imagine a backline of Thornton at CHB, Waite, Walker, O'hAilpin.... and Bower, Edwards etc etc to boot...

all we're lacking there is a fullback.

Hell, a backline that tall and athletic could even accomodate Whitnall

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With Fev up forward, its a bit of an easy out for Waite...doesnt have to be that consistent or accept too much responsibility.
Maybe moving him to CHB and forcing him to apply himself by giving him responsibility will make him a better player....
Waite will either be a Tarrant all his career or if he does apply himself be a version of Pavlich...Pavlich started at CHB and learned the game before being moved forward...some decent firm handed coaching would also help....

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agreed... but not the CHB..... i reckon halfback flank or pocket. He's quick and agile enough to play on little guys.

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Maybe the Brad Green/Cameron Bruce type of flanker ..not convinced about his pace.....mid smalls like Didak would be to smart for him....
Would match up well on a player like Ash Hansen and your man Brad Staker

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Another way to get focussing a little more is to send the runner out to him every time he showboats, loafs or overcommits ... assuming they have discussed these issues. Then, if he still fails to respond, you drag him off the ground and let him warm the bench while Josh Kennedy shows him how to make an effort, and how to present when our defenders have the ball.

Doing the basics is not so much rocket science as rocket up the arse (when appropriate, with the right player).

He was coachable when he first started in the VFL ... he probably still is with the same tactics.

that would be a good match up for Waite for sure.. it would play Jarrod into form

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