I was just reading gathp tell us Blues supporters back in 2003 how we screwed up that years draft by picking rejects, and how St Kilda are chock full of talented kids from first round draft picks.

Interesting reading people's responses to his posts, things like Carlton don't need to lie down for early draft choices to be successful, and premierships aren't won by draft picks etc.

Would have been a great tactic if we'd had those first round draft picks...

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

Even though we only our Walker pick, I think he was suggesting we should've used all our picks on kids instead of retreads. Most people were saying he had rocks in his head.

That absolute @#$%&! stick GarthP has been conditioned by his supercoach Grant "I won Mastermind pecialising in Stating the Bleedin Obvious" Thomas, he doesnt know any better.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

You missed the point of my post. Read it again.

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"A good composer does not initiate. He steals."

- Igor Stravinsky

Yeah. You did tell him your snake would eat his mongoose.

I just got one of those friend of a friend of a friend rumours

Just spoke to a guy who's friend is apparently Silvagni's brother in law and apparently SOS reckons Pagan is safe.

I just nodded and smiled

um yeah whatever

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*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

It's official, you're all over-valuing the input of an AFL coach on match day.

What do you want him to do hey?

Call a time-out? Change formation? Flip to the backup play? Throw on special teams?

This is AFL football ladies and gents, a coach is severely limited in his impact on match day.

I have at least thrown up a theory (in another thread) to attempt to explain why he does what he does. You all take the soft option; that he's stupid, ignorant, living in the past, etc. Sounds great on a newspaper.

Anyway, here's what I'd like to see in terms of change:

Retained: Pagan, Mitchell, TD, GD, recruitment staff.

Shown the door: Trout, Libba, the board (for the most part), whoever the skills coach is, our strength and conditioning coach (Peter something or other, nice guy). Anyone in the footy department associated with them who doesn't provide a unique skill or a unique level of expertise in a skill. The club doctors too.

Promoted: Peter Dean.

Recruited: SOS, and whoever else we can get our hands on, perhaps a guy like Shaun Rehn, or someone with a proven track record as a midfield coach. A sports scientist and analysis team along with a strength and conditioning coach, who are all under instruction to work together with the coaching staff to maximise player development (and minimise player recovery time) through the best available training techniques and programs. New club doctors, who actually demonstrate a capacity to assess injury and are able to advise on modifications to said sport-science-built programs and techniques to minimise recovery time.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I hate to day this but you and I finally agree on something

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Tell us about ports 79 point loss to Fremantle against another top 4 side on the weekend. I would put today's result to the side when evaluating his performance - it is all you are using.

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"Davies could eventually become a player of Judd's ability" - Paganite03 Click here to see for yourself!

Its just another case of this game suits my argument I'll use it, this game doesn't, I'll discard it.

abherations abherations abherations.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Whooooaaaaaa!

There goes Carlton God's credibility...

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

Digby Morell about to speak on SEN about Pagan and Mitchell

Couldn't give a shit? The coach and counterparts are responsible for making sure they do give a shit and are physically and mentally prepared.

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Mjonc signing off at 8888

As I stated earlier in an ideal situation that would happen.

It's unlikely to for financial reasons.

We're not going to be a serious threat for the next two years so I'm happy to give Mitchell the gig for two years and see if it works.

If it doesn't goodbye Barry hello proper appointment process.

If it does work then we're on our way with two years of effective coaching behind us.

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

yeah well GW maybe that just makes me a debunker

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Cheers for the heads-up.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Oh well, at least you're confident we'll be able to afford the dollars to go through "due process" in two years time.

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Hope your footy team wins.

If you could find a few more potential coaches who would do it for 200K a year you might get a field of applicants to have a proper interview process with...I think it was JohnM(correct me if I am wrong) who suggested a panel of expertise to properly headhunt us a coach...while I support Pagan being removed I am not happy with this process of appointing a new coach and dont like it based on the results of this mickey mouse review...very unprofessional and Sticks to me has comprimised himself to the point he should step down and away from anything to do with appointing a new coach...

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"When you have the attitude of a champion, you see adversity as your
training partner."
- Conor Gillen

appoint Mitch for the wrong reasons and two years may set us back 5.

Get the coach after Mitch wrong and suddenly we're all singing

Oh we're from Tigerland......

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!