Our reward for being good little boys and rolling over on Pagan???

It was too late to appeal. Picks taken away early hrs Saturday morning and the draft was Sunday.
We should have delayed the Friday investigation by the AFL.

Big deal....one kick.

Doesn't make him Malcolm Blight.

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We turfed out the only bloke who would have fought the AFl over it

























*ducks*

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I'd prefer Goddard to Waite and Fisher and he would be the best kick in our side.

Nope, not true at all. The courts are open for special cases like this on a Saturday. AND the best part of it all is that we wouldn't actually have had to prove that we were unfairly done by or anything, all we would have to prove is that we had an argument.

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Agree

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Number 17 - come on down!

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Maybe marter than you think Synbad ... perhaps they waited till now because they knew this year would be a superdraft.

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Number 17 - come on down!

Im not sure if i made it clear...

Were taking the AFL on in the courts over this... (allegedly)

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4 years late if I may say so.

Whats the point of going down this track now ?

Can we sue for loss of income due to not winning matches and loss of sponsors ?

Which former player is financing the court action?

What happened the last time we took on the AFL in the courts?

Would love to see us get the extra pick but just can not see it happening

Stillwant the board GAWN

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smokescreen

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I prefer the conspiracy theory


The AFL have whispered to smorgy porgy to keep Denis and then come at as like a mad bull and we'll cave in and give you PP


Course what'll happen is the media will get involved

smogy'll shit himself

and demitrispew will get all fired up and strip us of a few other things..


But I can't wait to see smorgys little eyes stuck in front of the camera again - ahh fills me with such confidence does the smorgster!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

If this is for real I don't know whether to applaud the bastards or go down there with a lynch mob or something!

To take the AFL to the courts over our draft penalties is absolutely ridiculous and 4 years too late. Talk about missing the boat!!!

It is pointless and futile

If it is some sort of pre-cursor to contesting the unjust and unreasonable withdrawal of what should be our warranted pre-draft priority pick then they should definitely be congratulated.

The changes to the priority pick rules this year and given our results in 2006 and 2005, essentially constitutes an extension to the draconian penalties imposed on us in 2002.

There is no doubt that ethically, morally, and by simply applying the spirit of the rule for priority picks and given the history of clubs gaining access to these draft picks previously that Carlton rightfully is entitled to a pick 1 priority pick this year. It is a miscarriage of justice that we are being denied this pick.

This is what the club should be fighting tooth and nail for!

Some people have obviously failed to grasp the concept of this and are trying to claim players at other clubs like Goddard, Wells, McLean, etc. This is not the idea. Poaching these players is obviously never going to happen.

The idea is to either force the AFL to submit and provide compensatory picks in this years draft or to reinforce our argument to obtain a pre-draft priority pick by highlighting the gross injustice the changes to the PP rules are on Carlton.

And this is the number 1 objective.

I have noticed a lot of people dont appear to be passionate about this absolute injustice and I think this is very frustrating. Given our results in the last 2 years we absolutely should be receiving picks 1 and 2 in this years National Draft.

I have sent a couple of email to the club imploring them to fight to the death on this. But heaps of Carlton supporters dont want to criticise or object to the rule change because they appear to meekly accept that that is the new landscape for these decisions and so be it.

We are being made to pay for the deliberat exploitation of the previous PP rules by the filth and the dawks. This is further insult to the whole situation.

This board has lost my faith totally and I have no confidence in their ability to do anything, even a cup of coffee, but if they are ever going to show some competency for anything then this issue requires it in spades!

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C'mon Blueboys!

I find this difficult to believe. Even if it is true, the courts would probably rule that the AFL applied their own saction incorrectly in 2003, and retrospectively strip us of Andrew Walker.

Walker would go into the PSD as a free agent, and we would re-draft him with our first pick in the PSD.

So nothing would change except the club would pay all the AFL's legal costs, and we would look like idiots. Again.

nightcrawler, if this was ever going to be tested in the courts the only outcome possible is that the AFL are made to remove the draft system altogether as it essentially constitutes a breach of the Trade Practices Act in that it is a restraint of trade.

This has already been tested in the Australian courts and was found to be the case. That's why the NRL has no draft. The only reason that it still exists in the AFL is because it has never been challenged.

We would never lose Walker, thats being silly

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C'mon Blueboys!

Marciblue those people are confused, that's not how it would work. The court would rule that we were denied pick 1 in 2002, and would compensate us with a comprable pick in this years draft. So in effect the club is trying to get picks 1 & 2, and keep 17 as well. The court wouldn't have the power to take players away from other clubs to compensate us, and we wouldn't want them.

I can't see that the club has a leg to stand on. The AFL can make up whatever penalty they like. The penalty doesn't need to be internally consistent, it only needs to be consistently applied to future clubs who breach the salary cap on the same magnitude that we apparently did.