They could, but the thought probably would not have occurred to them. I think the fact that they allowed us to draft Walker hints that there may have been a chance to catch them out if the whole thing was scrutinised.

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Kid??

Here I was thinking that they came of a production line with the words "may need stretching" printed on them?

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the board is more like a twisted plank

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Ich bein ein Carltonian

I told you all this was going to happen 3 months ago. If you can recall my inside information post...

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delist the whole carlton list

Yeah Rashee.........

that's right i remember receiving that..............!

i think Dee Boy gave it to me............yeah yeah.....Dee Boy
gave it to me........!


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

Happened didn't it...with Melbourne and Gutnik dobbing themselves in...? a) he didn't get any slack...they lost two rounds....BUT they had just played in a Grannie so lost pick 17 and 34...or similiar....

Or did I dream that???

We lost our picks at the worse possible time and shouldn't have lost the PP.

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Greg Lee

very interesting rash, you called this from a very long way out. I went over the thread just now

just focusing on the argument it is clear cut that Carlton has an EXTREMELY strong case. That's pretty obvious.

What is also obvious is that we have a board and club administration clearly in tatters and focussing on farcical issues when they should have all their energies and attention focussed on list management and recruitment issues which this clearly covers.

The pieces are in place
- two successive wooden spoons
- extraordinarily bad success rate in that period @ 18%
- club teetering on total collapse if not for AFL underwriting. On-field success a certain stimulus to turn this around
- improving our list the only way to achieve this
- with us finishing last it doesn't compromise the scum by having us pick before them
- the fallout wouldn't be as bad as people think because essentially it was a game in 2005, when these rules were not in existence that is denying us a PP. It is not unreasonable for the AFL to rule in our favour. It is unreasonable to have us denied this pick when the pros and cons are weighed up

The thing that will f#^k this up is our pathetic incumbents

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C'mon Blueboys!

But ....... this all started with ......







Its all just getting too confusing !!

But what would the remedy be?

Sure - let's assume that the AFL got it wrong - what would we get -

1.damages? How would you quantify that?
2.Another pick this year? I think that there will be all sorts of objection to that.
3.A Priority pick before the first round? There is no basis for suggesting that the decision in an earlier year is remedied by changing this years order?
4.An increase in the salary cap? We have no money, so that's not going to help.

So, what's the purpose?

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"Two roads diverged in a wood,
and I,
I took the one less travelled by,
and that has made all the difference."

Robert Frost

Demetriou "Priority pick#1, Carlton"
Hughsey - "Bryce Gibbs"
Demetriou - "Pick#1, Carlton"
Hughsey - "Lachlan Hansen"

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Mate the way we are going ...

Demetriou "Priority pick#1, Carlton"
Hughsey - "Michael Gardiner"

I just cannot see the AFL giving us another pick this year. Especially seieng as though it is the Draft-of-the-century or whatever they're calling it!

15 other clubs out there would be furious if they gave us another pick, and they would have every right to be furious.

Could you imagine if we finsished 15th? And weeks before the draft the AFL gave Essendon* (for whatever reason may be) a PP at pick two giving them the opportunity at both Gibbs & Hansen........................MAN, I'd be flower pissed!

Wont happen. AFL are a pack of cauliflower that are screwing this game and our club into the ground! One day, they are gonna regret that! Seriously some things that Demetriou is doing are boardaring on 'Dictatorship'!

If this is true, and we are takin them to court, then i would be pushing heavily for our $1million (+ damages) back. They can keep their pick.

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"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit"
- Aristotle

ryan, we didn't finish 15th so it is pointless to the whole issue

However strong the validity is of Carlton seeking compensation for the draft penalties of 2002 is absolutely irrelevant AFAIC. We are 4 years to late to contest and seek litigation on this matter. It is dead and buried now. If there is any legs on this then our board is plain f#@ked!

Collo put his position as CEO of TD before what was best for Carlton in 2002 by refusing to contest and defend the clubs position against the brutal penalties. He decided that to achieve his objective of getting Carlton across to TD he would allow our club to be bent over and sodomised by the AFL. I was for our relocation but not at the cost of having our decisions as a club compromised by the greed and self-serving goals of Collo. So when Collo chose to essentialy not respond in the manner he did back then our moment to make a stand against the penalties passed. It is too late now.

The issue now, at present, that is confronting our club as we type and speak is the ridiculous, unreasonable burden that our club has to endure by the changes to the priority pick rules when we so clearly need this sort of draft assistance and rightfully so. I have raised the issues pertaining to my stance in previous posts but if this bunch of dropkicks we call a board are capable of doing anything remotely right then the issue they should be confronting is the unwarranted burden placed on our club by these rule changes. No deviations allowed.

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C'mon Blueboys!

Ryan - are you serious about that?

You would prefer us to have $1mil over a first round priority pick?

Can you believe that? $1 million dollars is chook feed in todays game for God's sake!!!! Top draft picks are essentialy priceless because they can deliver you the players you need to deliver the ultimate - a premiership. But go for the mill, we wont even see it anyway because it will just go towards paying our interest bill...

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C'mon Blueboys!

No..........hell no...............i'd love Gibbs/Hansen combo at Carlton. Who wouldn't!!!!!!!!!!

But just remember, this is the AFL we're talking about. And more importantly Andrew Demitriou.

I just see a financial compensation more of a probability than i do another pick.

The AFL is never wrong. Hellyou can be fined upwards of $20,000 if you even suggest it these days.

That's all i'm saying. That IF we are seeking legal action, that a financial compensation of our $1million fine + damages and legal fees would probably be all we could get out of the AFL.

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"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit"
- Aristotle

BWAH HA HA HA HA. You have got to be kidding! The AFL is the ultimate in consumerist capitalism. Ensure that every punter thinks his team has a chance (at least once every 16 years), homogeneity, all run by a commission (bit like the 5 "families" in New York).

Nah. Communism? You gotta read some more Marx, mate. But throw out Groucho and try Karl....

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In other news.. Melbourne has stepped up its Bid for Whitnall.. offering a 2nd round pick and it's promise to Whitnall to offer him a spot up forward with a Mega box of Krispy Kremes!

Effes young buddy i'd say your talking utter tripe!

Goddard is a GOOD player, not a champion!

Yeh so i suppose you would put him up there with established stars and up and coming superstars like Pavlich, Hodge, our Up and comer Murphy, Riewoldt, Deledio, Buddy Franklin, CHRIS JUDD!

Yeh Goddard is the true reflection of a No.1 pick!

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In other news.. Melbourne has stepped up its Bid for Whitnall.. offering a 2nd round pick and it's promise to Whitnall to offer him a spot up forward with a Mega box of Krispy Kremes!

Gee I hope your right GWS. That would make my year.

However there is an old saying that if it's a choice between a conspiracy theory and a f**k up, it is most likely a f**k up.

Wouldn't it send a dangerous precedent for every other AFL club?

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