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The C@#! at the AFL have set the precedent - if they can change the draft order less than 10 hours before the 2002 National Draft to screw us - they can change the draft order in the same time frame to assist us.
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


Difference is that those C@#! that you refer to actually make the rules.......they will do whatever suits them, unless the legal system orders them to do otherwise.



I will be performing a tap dance in top hat and tails outside the Supreme Court if we win this won - and also the halls of the 2006 National Draft just to annoy "The Spew" he hates losing. :twisted:

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If it’s in the AFL’s best interests to see Carlton become a drawing power again as soon as possible (which it is), why wouldn’t Demetriou simply come out with a statement saying…
“As a result of the Carlton Football Clubs’ legal challenge re. the removal of the 2002 priority ND pick for salary cap breaches, our legal advice is that Carlton would most likely succeed in their challenge. Therefore, in the best financial interest of the AFL, the AFL has no choice but to re-instate to Carlton the 1st round priority pick from 2002 which was taken from them.
Carlton will therefore receive a 1st round priority draft pick in the 2006 ND.â€

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Two questions-

1. If Caroline Wilson stumbled across this thread, and saw this rumour about Carlton taking the AFL to court, would she then go off and do some of her own digging and publish an article if she found some corroborating evidence?

2. If we assume Carlton already know they are going to be given a priority pick, would this explain why the club appear to be headed towards 2007 without a ruckman? (ie: perhaps they already know they will have Gibbs and Sellar on their list in 2007)


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Yer all dreeeeaaaamiiiing

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[quote="budzy"]If it’s in the AFL’s best interests to see Carlton become a drawing power again as soon as possible (which it is), why wouldn’t Demetriou simply come out with a statement saying…
“As a result of the Carlton Football Clubs’ legal challenge re. the removal of the 2002 priority ND pick for salary cap breaches, our legal advice is that Carlton would most likely succeed in their challenge. Therefore, in the best financial interest of the AFL, the AFL has no choice but to re-instate to Carlton the 1st round priority pick from 2002 which was taken from them.
Carlton will therefore receive a 1st round priority draft pick in the 2006 ND.â€

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[quote="budzy"]If it’s in the AFL’s best interests to see Carlton become a drawing power again as soon as possible (which it is), why wouldn’t Demetriou simply come out with a statement saying…
“As a result of the Carlton Football Clubs’ legal challenge re. the removal of the 2002 priority ND pick for salary cap breaches, our legal advice is that Carlton would most likely succeed in their challenge. Therefore, in the best financial interest of the AFL, the AFL has no choice but to re-instate to Carlton the 1st round priority pick from 2002 which was taken from them.
Carlton will therefore receive a 1st round priority draft pick in the 2006 ND.â€


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[quote="budzy"]If it’s in the AFL’s best interests to see Carlton become a drawing power again as soon as possible (which it is), why wouldn’t Demetriou simply come out with a statement saying…
“As a result of the Carlton Football Clubs’ legal challenge re. the removal of the 2002 priority ND pick for salary cap breaches, our legal advice is that Carlton would most likely succeed in their challenge. Therefore, in the best financial interest of the AFL, the AFL has no choice but to re-instate to Carlton the 1st round priority pick from 2002 which was taken from them.
Carlton will therefore receive a 1st round priority draft pick in the 2006 ND.â€

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"It means they're acquiring it compulsorily?"





ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

"Tell em they're dreaming" :lol:

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[quote="budzy"]If it’s in the AFL’s best interests to see Carlton become a drawing power again as soon as possible (which it is), why wouldn’t Demetriou simply come out with a statement saying…
“As a result of the Carlton Football Clubs’ legal challenge re. the removal of the 2002 priority ND pick for salary cap breaches, our legal advice is that Carlton would most likely succeed in their challenge. Therefore, in the best financial interest of the AFL, the AFL has no choice but to re-instate to Carlton the 1st round priority pick from 2002 which was taken from them.
Carlton will therefore receive a 1st round priority draft pick in the 2006 ND.â€

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The following goes to everyone who keeps telling guys like Agro and me that we’re dreaming. We probably, most definitely are. I mean the odds of this coming off are very remote to non-existant. But a lot of this futility comes down to so many Carlton supporters simply accepting the new rules regardless of how unjust or unfair they are towards our club.

You have all just shrugged your shoulders and provided no opposition or rage against the rules and their impost on Carlton. I know it don’t mean much posting and discussing on here about it but what forums like this has shown me is that there are too many of you who just prepared to brush this PP scam off as either too hard to fight or just the way its going to be. Sorry, that’s piss-weak if you ask me.

This whole PP rort is virtually on par with the way we were treated on Black Friday in 2002 except this time we have done nothing wrong and have not breached anything. We are being punished for the unethical behaviour of other clubs who chose to blatantly flaunt the PP rules and the AFL has decided to clamp down on this behaviour but in the process it is once again doing this at a massive, unreasonable cost to our club.

Yep, we might be dreaming. That’s because we give a f#^k!!! :evil:

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What if Collingwood or Essendon* were in our position and we were in theirs. We would all be saying "stiff shit pies, them is the breaks".

I would have preferred Carlton take the then VFL to court when they introduced the draft in 1987 because it is a restarint of trade.

Once Synbad comes on-line perhaps he can advise when this apparent action is going to happen! I'd love to see the Baggers back in a stoush with the AFL. Hopefully we don't f#@k it up....and if we win then we may just start to get the "Carlton swagger" moving again.

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Sorry MB...not trying to offend you....But yes we are dreaming.

You can't cop the penalties, whinge about them, try to use them to an advantage (remember the Fightback campaign)......and then 4 years later claim that they were unfair.....anyone including the courts will throw it straight back at you.
As for the PP change....that's a different story....and if you remember....when Smorgo got in he raised this "not that it was going to matter as we were going to win a ton of games anyway"...
This is the bone that this dog should be shaking. We can argue we consistently said it was unfair and now we can show it is and we are arguing for it as we always said it was poptentially unfair....well you know what I mean

Any rule change will catch someone out....and be unfair to someone.

This we a have a cause to argue...the 2002 PP...I think we will only struggle (even though I agree it was unfair...still do...) falls into the "Kerrigan" catagory

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Billc, I agree with you that trying to get back at the AFL for the 2002 penalties is plain stupid and a waste of time. I criticise the club for pursuing this action if that is the case.

But denying us a PP because of these rule changes is wrong and definitely worth fighting for. Watch this space I guess...

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JuzzCarlton wrote:
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"Dad! Smorgon dug another hole." :evil:



Maybe we can get one of those Aboriginals... Cathy Freeman? Eyvone Goolagong?

Can we get this guy to represent us?

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May as well Wolfy we already have Denis Dennuto coaching us

Its Marbo - Its the constitution - Its the vibe of it :lol:

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I salute you Agro and Marci.

This is not a divisive prank from a young Cameron (starting a petition against Pagan earlier this year).

It's about fighting for a cause we believe in and for all to enjoy.

Who knows, if it is agued well enough (inferences to the Castle) and the AFL doesn't back down, we may find ourselves some sympathisers in the shape of sponsors:

Kleenex Tissues (wipe those tears)
Pfizer (calm those nerves)
Prozac (because you give a F###k)
National Trust (preserve our history)

If we have a case, fight it. Then when it's all and done, forget about Black Friday, and move forward.

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bondiblue wrote:
Pfizer (calm those nerves)


Mmm, maybe offer some membership discounts for their products!!! 8) :lol:

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Hey...........

does anyone else see the slight irony in pfizer....and their
said product...........?


kindest regards tommi

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